JuanCarlos
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I would suggest that comparing being waterboarded during training to undergoing the same procedure at the hands of a foreign government (with no idea when/if it will stop, or when/if these people will kill you) is probably not too far removed from comparing consensual sex to rape.
The context of an action can make a monumental difference in how psychologically scarring it is to the victim. WhyteP38 admits this when he suggests that even different rape victims might experience different levels of trauma depending on the nature of the crime.
Yet at the same time we've (as in, some members in this thread) decided that since we waterboard our own volunteers in a controlled environment it must be okay to do it to people being held against their will? No difference, right?
The fact that a sexual encounter can be, depending on the circumstances, either one of the best moments in a person's life or their worst nightmare (leaving scars that will never heal) should be enough to suggest that perhaps the context of an experience might matter more than the mechanics. How somebody could not realize that this might also apply to simulated drowning is beyond me.
And before anybody goes there, I have plenty of experience talking with rape victims. More than I would ever want, that's for sure. Anybody here have any loved ones who have been waterboarded while in custody by a hostile foreign power?
The context of an action can make a monumental difference in how psychologically scarring it is to the victim. WhyteP38 admits this when he suggests that even different rape victims might experience different levels of trauma depending on the nature of the crime.
Yet at the same time we've (as in, some members in this thread) decided that since we waterboard our own volunteers in a controlled environment it must be okay to do it to people being held against their will? No difference, right?
The fact that a sexual encounter can be, depending on the circumstances, either one of the best moments in a person's life or their worst nightmare (leaving scars that will never heal) should be enough to suggest that perhaps the context of an experience might matter more than the mechanics. How somebody could not realize that this might also apply to simulated drowning is beyond me.
And before anybody goes there, I have plenty of experience talking with rape victims. More than I would ever want, that's for sure. Anybody here have any loved ones who have been waterboarded while in custody by a hostile foreign power?