Bolt Action Rifle

Years ago this was probably true...Not nowadays.
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Yes but the Remington 700 ADL is a old model I'm pretty sure they stopped making them a while ago.

And like you said Remington has more parts available right now but savage barrels are easy to put on.

I am not going to go in competitions with this gun, and if I did I would by some better stuff for it. And I don't think I am going to go in completions that often or at all,if I did I would buy a better gun for it and maybe spend 1,000 not 450.


Zach
 
Nobody takes a stock Remington 700 of any model and wins 1,000 yard matches...
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I suspect it doesn't happen with Savage either.

The ones winning matches seem to be the factory team, and you will never convince me those guns were randomly picked off the assembly line

Also, the guns that win are the ones that were designed as competition guns, while few other companies market a specialized "target" version.
 
Also, the guns that win are the ones that were designed as competition guns, while few other companies market a specialized "target" version.
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Few, if any, other companies can build a rifle that shoots as well as the Savage's for the same price.
 
the Remington 700 ADL is a better overall gun than a savage for the price.
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Not at all (Savage Axis and Edge not included). The Savage 10/110 has been around forever - now produced as models 11, 16,etc but still the same basic action.
 
Remington's issues aren't with the barrel or the actions in stock form. Remington's issues are with the triggers and stocks that come on their lesser configuration of the action. A 700 action is a 700 action, the fit and finish are different throughout the lines offered.

I've never had a Remington that wouldn't shoot decently out of the box. I've had a few with stocks that aren't fit for a BB gun and the triggers have all sucked.

The one great thing about the 700 action is the wealth of components you can change out or add to make them better over time. Also the number of options you have to make them what you want over time. Almost every smith out there customizes the 700 and can work on them to build what you want. Buy the cheap version to start with and as your finances allow, you can make it what you want. You can't do that as easily with say a Ruger American or similar action.
 
zachattack2,
Sounds like your sold on the Remington 700 ADL, if so I say go for it. There is only one thing that about the rifle that keeps me from following your example and that is the cost of replacing the barrel. If or when you wearout the barrel (could take years) replaceing it will not be cheap. Aftermarket barrel are expensive and adding the cost of a gunsmith to the process makes me breakout in a cold sweat, but thats just me. With barrel life in mind shoot it often, toys are just no fun unless your playing with them.
 
I've never had a Remington that wouldn't shoot decently out of the box. I've had a few with stocks that aren't fit for a BB gun and the triggers have all sucked.
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All the Lawyerproof Remington triggers suck.

The original Walker triggers are great....... properly adjusted and kept clean, they are perfectly safe, too.
 
All the Lawyerproof Remington triggers suck.
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The trigger that comes with the remington 700 ADL May not be as good as the savage trigger and the stock might not be quite as good but the action and everything else is better.

You can eaisaly buy a new stock or trigger for the Remington 700 ADL and make it a way better gun than the savage overall.

Sincerely,
Zach
 
Precision shooter, I do not want to do any competitions with this gun.

Snyper, I agree how much better is the savage for competitions.
 
You can eaisaly buy a new stock or trigger for the Remington 700 ADL and make it a way better gun than the savage overall.
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Not really. I own both, and they both shoot about the same. The big difference is I have about $1500.00 in the Remington to get it where I wanted. I have $750 in the 10 Precision Carbine and $675 in the 10 Predator Hunter and they shoot the same MOA as the 700 out to 500yds.
 
The trigger that comes with the remington 700 ADL May not be as good as the savage trigger and the stock might not be quite as good but the action and everything else is better.

You can eaisaly buy a new stock or trigger for the Remington 700 ADL and make it a way better gun than the savage overall.

Sincerely,
Zach
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Ok, so we have established you want a Remington 700, great, by all means get the 700.

But you still haven't answered the simple question: "What makes the action and everything else better"?

Is this personal preference/opinion? That's fine, everyone has them.
Is it you were brought up hearing this from a relative, so it has to be true now as it may have been when they were growing up?

I'm a Savage Fan, I have no problem admitting that. I have tried rifles from most major manufacturers, including Remington. I had the most problems from Remington. Every Savage I have owned has been great, quality-wise and accuracy-wise.

Every Mfg has their fans. My point is, if you haven't ever tried something other than Remington, how do yo know it's the "best"? Just trying to open your mind a little to other possibilities so as not to limit you to "what you're used to", but habits are hard to break.
 
Few, if any, other companies can build a rifle that shoots as well as the Savage's for the same price.
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No one else builds a rifle like the Savage, which was designed especially for F Class

You can't compare a purpose built rifle to everyone else's hunting rifles and expect them to be equal.

I still haven't seen any documentation that they win more than any other brands.

All I ever see is talk about the "Team Savage", or praise from their fans

You'd think all the top competitors would use them, or at least use the barrels, but they don't:

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/11/18/rifle-barrels-what-the-pros-use/
 
It seems like everybody likes the savage? Personally I like Remington so I didn't consider the savage that much maybe I should do some research about the savage.
 
Precision shooter, it seems like you like the savage guns a lot and researched about them and I was looking at cabelas and the only one for around 450 is 410 and it's the savage 11 prairie dog bolt action, but it has no scope.
Do you know any savage Bolt action guns you recommend??

How about you Snyper? Any recommendations?

Anybody else have any?
 
I have three Remingtons that will do sub-moa, and one is just like it came from the factory. One is a thin barreled Model 7 in it's original wood stock

The other two I spent maybe 50 cents each for the Epoxy it took to bed the actions

I also have a Browning that shoots sub-moa with no modifications, and I know lots of people with both brands that do the same

You don't have to make a lot of changes to get very accurate rifles

People often do that without even trying the guns as they are.

It's "cooler" if you have a Timney trigger and an HS Precision stock, but it's really not needed
 
No one else builds a rifle like the Savage, which was designed especially for F Class

You can't compare a purpose built rifle to everyone else's hunting rifles and expect them to be equal.

I still haven't seen any documentation that they win more than any other brands.

All I ever see is talk about the "Team Savage", or praise from their fans

You'd think all the top competitors would use them, or at least use the barrels, but they don't:

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/1...-the-pros-use/
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I'm not comparing a purpose built rifle to everyone elses hunting rifles. The fact is, other companies don't produce purpose built rifles like the Savage F-Class rifles because they can't build one as good at the price point the Savage's are offered for. It would cost the other companies more money, to which they would pass on to the consumers, and the consumer would rather just have a custom built for the same money as those companies' rifles would have to sell for... The Savage comes in for usually far less money than a custom but yet is still competitive and even beats those customs, but at 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5 the price....
 
Savage Rifles

Don't know your budget...

Savage 11 Trophy Hunter, Heavy Barrel with Nikon Scope
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Sava...s&Ntt=Savage&WTz_l=Header;Search-All+Products
Same rifle in different camo
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Sava...s&Ntt=Savage&WTz_l=Header;Search-All+Products
Light Weight Barrel
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Sava...ial&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products&WTz_st

10T - No Scope, but a great starting platform. Add rings and scope and good to go.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Sava...0&Ntt=Savage&WTz_l=Header;Search-All+Products

These are just what Cabelas offers.
Dick's, Academy, Gander Mt., Bass Pro, and other offer more as well.
Look online as well. Can usually find it cheaper and if it comes from out of state, there is no tax. Just have to have it shipped to an FFL. I think Cabelas will even do the transfer for you if there is one close by.
 
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