Being outed.

So if someone attacks a gun owner that is "out" is it a hate-crime?:p



Everyone that knows me knows I support the amendments of the constitution (especialy the first two)
 
Ditto Uncle Billy.

I don't mind at all when the attitude within gun ownership is wedded w/ local culture (i.e country boys style, city slick CCs, vets, gun shows commandos, the range-snipers, you-tubers or even the "modern cowboys") are only a matter of preference or lifestyle choices.
That's called variety.
When politics are in, the passion become convoluted w/ agendas this and that, whether right or left, still create a false sense of principles that many of us simply (and conveniently) follow into one or the other.
That's called divide et impera
 
At one time ,during the late seventies and early eighties,there was a very strong push to disarm everyone in the U.S. by using every method be it legal or illegal and also using the pressure of peer groups to disarm all American's.

In that environment,there would be great negative circumstances to someone that was revealed to be a firearms owner or appreciater.

Even today,there are some companies ,primarily involved with young people where gun ownership would likely effect how far you went in that company.

Not saying it's right but there it is.

But now,especially since the Republicans in Congress,pushed by the NRA's ceaseless efforts to forestall meaningless and extremely harmful gun laws from being back doored into existence,that 'outing' pressure has eased considerably.

Add to that,the realization coming from alot of liberals that the police cannot be everywhere all the time and that they need to have a means of self defense too, and that 'outing' damage is pretty much confined to just how YOU act to the people trying to make something out of nothing.

I react very emotionally controlled about that subject at all times and present no nonsense answers about everything that I feel I might need to say about that subject.

Which frankly is-I am a law abiding gun owner and user at all times.

Then you start getting all these questions designed to bait you into saying something you can be attacked on.

I just don't go any further.

My legal gun ownership and behavior is none of anyone's business but my own.
 
Lotta stuff about who's in whose faces about it, who doesn't care, and whose business it isn't, etc. But that isn't the point of the thread, is it? It is about being OUTED! In some times and places it could be an issue.

Another example is finding a picture of me holding a shotgun teaching a class of uniformed folk as one of my managers' screensaver. No, I didn't fire him! Wiseguy. Even laughed. But I really coulda done without it...
 
I don't know if you can be outed, if you were never in'ed.
If you aren't paying attention to the fact that I hunt and do biathlon, then you probably aren't close enough to my circle of close friends to have your opinion matter to me.
I don't make a big deal about shooting/firearms b/c it's a part of my life, not my whole life. I'd like to think that any attempt to point to one aspect of my life as though it were singularly important would look as ridiculous as saying "oh, did you know that doofus drives a Ford?"
 
I live a little over 100 miles north of NY City and work about 60 miles north of NYC. Most people I know are pro or neutral, when I come across a anti I do my best to persuade them in a friendly manor. Funny thing is, the owner of the company I work for has definite anti leanings but we make a lot of money making gun parts. Guess he is not that anti.....
 
Everybody that knows me, and probably some that don't, know that I'm a gun guy and a hunter. It's in the family. Heck, my 84 year old Momma has a stainless Charter Arms 5 shot 38. Our youngest daughter (also has guns) married into a nice bunch of folks that are not 'gun people', but only the youngest daughter in that bunch is truly anti-gun and anti-hunting. Having good manners, she has never expressed to me her 'anti' feelings, nor have I talked to her about shooting. Her mom was anti gun, but more I think because she knew nothing about guns. She comes out to the ranch every now and then and the last couple of visits she's wanted to shoot guns. I guess she just wanted to experience it. That was good to hear, so I dragged out the 22 rifle and then the 22 revolver. She was having fun, so I asked if she wanted to move up to bigger guns. She did, so we did. We went to the 38 revolver, then the 9mm Beretta, and then I dragged out the 357 Python with hot loads. She shot em all and ran through a serious pile of reloads. A good time was had by all. Still, even though he watched his mom blasting away, her son (my SIL) won't touch a gun of any sort, though he does want me to teach my grandson to shoot.
 
I admit I do make a conscience effort not to post anything gun related on social networks, such as FaceBook. Just as I would make a conscience effort not to have pictures posted of me partying or passed out drunk (not that it's ever happened).

Sites like those can be used by employers or potential employers, schools or practically anybody who wants to try to dig up some dirt. And though there is absolutely nothing illegal about owning firearms where I live, some of these employers or potential employers may be anti's and privately hold some prejudice and discreminate.
 
2GunCorcoran said:
How do you deal with being outed to anti-gun people?
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I can't say that "being outed" as a gun owner is a real problem in Arkansas . . . I know a few folks who don't own guns, but I would not even call them "anti-gun." They're just "non-gun."

I do have a buddy here at work whose wife won't allow guns in the house. I have simply told him that if she ever decides that she wants to go to the range, I'd be happy to take them both. That invitation to them is a standing one and all they have to buy is their ammunition.
 
I don't mean to be rude Spats, but the 'all they buy is their ammunition' stipulation; sounds akin to inviting someone over for dinner with the only condition being 'they buy their own food'.
 
There's some truth to that, nate45. I've offered to supply the .22 ammo, and the shotgun shells if that's what those folks want to shoot. Unfortunately, my finances are such that my paying for the ammo for anything else of mine that they want to shoot isn't really an option. Besides, I'll supply the hardware with no rental fees. Other than .22s and shotgun shells, they'll just have to go Dutch. I've got mouths to feed.

Edited to add: Nate45, I just re-read my post and it sounded like I was calling you rude. Not what I meant, so I'll be busy editing for a moment. Sorry.

Edit #2. Hopefully, I got it right this time.
 
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I was just thinking of it from an ease of getting someone to go perspective. I very well understand about financial concerns. I was probably biased by the fact that I handload and its less expensive.

It was very kind of you to offer to furnish the .22s and shotgun shells and to let them use your firearms. Glad you are trying to help introduce people to our sport/hobbie.
 
And you have a good point, from that perspective. If I could afford to buy them all the ammo they wanted to shoot, for every kind of gun I own, I would. And if I had a place to handload, that might make it possible for me to supply more of their ammo . . . Sadly, I cannot do either. (You see, there's this little girl who lives at my house, and she demands that she be fed every day . . . )
 
I get outed every time I talk about guns (Mostly to northern libs) and My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...Guess folks don't like these subject like I love them..Undying ! ! ! !
 
People in Arkansas not anti-gun? You mean like, I dunno, THE CLINTONS? Seriously!?

You don't know who's anti-gun but it generally is political, not rational and on. So, there's a liklihood the next Democrat you speak to (at least a third of the population) is anti-gun, anti YOU.
 
Everyone that knows me knows that I am retired LEO (32 years) and I guess assumes that I am armed most of the time. As for the anti-gun folks I don't even give them a thought because around here they are a small minority
 
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