Being outed.
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No, the most you'll have to suffer is:
HR asking you to come talk to them, because one of your co-workers complained that they are not comfortable about you talking about weapons, and now HR is required to investigate;
The counselor at your kid's school calls, to talk about gun safety, and to tell you she thinks you should not have guns, and she's considering calling child protective services because guns in the home are a danger to children; she thinks at the least CPS should verify your guns are properly secured;
Your child's pediatrician informs your insurer that he is concerned because your child said you have guns in the home, and have been teaching him how to shoot;
Your manager asks security to do spot checks on your vehicle, because he thinks you might keep guns in the car on business property.
The list could go on.
If you are self-employed, don't have kids, etc, then a lot of this won't matter.
For many people, being outed could have serious repercussions. (And has had serious repercussions.)
HR asking you to come talk to them, because one of your co-workers complained that they are not comfortable about you talking about weapons, and now HR is required to investigate;
The counselor at your kid's school calls, to talk about gun safety, and to tell you she thinks you should not have guns, and she's considering calling child protective services because guns in the home are a danger to children; she thinks at the least CPS should verify your guns are properly secured;
Your child's pediatrician informs your insurer that he is concerned because your child said you have guns in the home, and have been teaching him how to shoot;
Your manager asks security to do spot checks on your vehicle, because he thinks you might keep guns in the car on business property.
The list could go on.
If you are self-employed, don't have kids, etc, then a lot of this won't matter.
For many people, being outed could have serious repercussions. (And has had serious repercussions.)
checkmyswag
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Have to know your coworkers/company atmosphere. Where I work its all good. If you dont work w like minded folks and talk about guns or hunting a lot then you become "that" guy.
Yes and No.
Talk to your CMEO if you have one. If everybody is happy talking smack, but one person feels harassed, it's a problem.
Similarly, I've been places where everybody was a shooter or hunter, and then one new person shows up who complains. It only takes one to create havoc with HR.
Talk to your CMEO if you have one. If everybody is happy talking smack, but one person feels harassed, it's a problem.
Similarly, I've been places where everybody was a shooter or hunter, and then one new person shows up who complains. It only takes one to create havoc with HR.
Kreyzhorse
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Every one who knows me knows that I am pro gun. If they don't know it, I'm more than happy to let them know if it comes up.
I'm not ashamed to be pro-gun nor do I care if they are anti gun. They can have their opinions and I have mine.
I'm not ashamed to be pro-gun nor do I care if they are anti gun. They can have their opinions and I have mine.
Standing Wolf
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I haven't met anyone who's anti-gun since I left California nine and a half years ago.
Before I returned to the United States, I got called into the personnel office once for talking about guns with a co-worker on company property.
Before I returned to the United States, I got called into the personnel office once for talking about guns with a co-worker on company property.
Edward429451
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One of the many reasons that even a bad business is better than a good job is the hassles described in this thread.
hangglider
Moderator
Buzzcook--you just outed yourself as a liberal!!! Doing that here is the equivalent of going to a Greatful Dead concert and selling 2nd amendment t-shirts! 
Was at a Christmas, sorry, "Holiday" party with I can't call them friends. Then it happened:
"Gehrhard here is Mr. NRA" someone blurted out. The room went silent. Everyone else had fallen to sleep and turned into pod people so turned towards me, mouths open, fingers pointing. They were about to start screeching but the shocked and angry hostess said from across the room: "YOU believe that CITIZENS should be ALLOWED to have GUNS!?" Now it was my turn.
I rolled my eyed toward the ceiling, pretended to twirl blond hair with one hand while the other went on my hip, and through make-believe-gum-chewing lips I simply said "ummmm, yeahhhhhh." "How can you say that!?" she yelped. "I can say that for the same reason we may keep and bear arms: the first and second amendments in The Bill of Rights from The Constitution."
The urban faux-urbane single-parent school-teacher and her impotent metrosexual Democrat-party-hack boyfriend never invited us back.
"Gehrhard here is Mr. NRA" someone blurted out. The room went silent. Everyone else had fallen to sleep and turned into pod people so turned towards me, mouths open, fingers pointing. They were about to start screeching but the shocked and angry hostess said from across the room: "YOU believe that CITIZENS should be ALLOWED to have GUNS!?" Now it was my turn.
I rolled my eyed toward the ceiling, pretended to twirl blond hair with one hand while the other went on my hip, and through make-believe-gum-chewing lips I simply said "ummmm, yeahhhhhh." "How can you say that!?" she yelped. "I can say that for the same reason we may keep and bear arms: the first and second amendments in The Bill of Rights from The Constitution."
The urban faux-urbane single-parent school-teacher and her impotent metrosexual Democrat-party-hack boyfriend never invited us back.
Stand up for what you believe in, if it's gun's, have a clear and factual 10 second elevator snippet on why. If the recipient is prejudice, it won't matter, you didn't want to associate with them after all. If they're reasonable, they'll at least respectfully listen.
+1 Gehrhard
+1 Gehrhard
Shadi Khalil
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This weekend at a dinner party my wife announced that I carry a gun everywhere, even at home in my PJ's. A few minutes later I regaled the guest by showing them my revolver and the neat little laser attached to it.
I can't be outed because I'm very pro-gun right up front. My vehicles are tagged with NRA & TSRA stickers and so is my tool box at work. I follow Ted Nugent's lead and do my best to advance the awareness of the 2nd amendment. I love taking "newbies" to the range and after a good bit of gun safety schooling teaching them the joys of firearms. I haven't found one person that leaves the range not wanting to get a gun of their own. I like to watch as their nervousness changes to confidence and they lose their initial fear when they find out that it doesn't hurt to shoot and with some common sense they can enjoy a new pastime safely.
Doing my best, one convert at a time.
Doing my best, one convert at a time.
MyGreenGuns
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My closest friends all know I love guns. Some of them even know I carry one everywhere. I do not advertise my carry gun, and have asked them not to "un-conceal" my weapon by talking about it.
I've been outed a few times. I'm pretty good at turning the conversation so the "Antis" feel insecure about admitting they DONT have a gun.
IE: "Whoa! Dont say that too loud! What if someone hears you and follows you home?! How would you stop them? They KNOW you DONT HAVE A GUN!"
I've been outed a few times. I'm pretty good at turning the conversation so the "Antis" feel insecure about admitting they DONT have a gun.
IE: "Whoa! Dont say that too loud! What if someone hears you and follows you home?! How would you stop them? They KNOW you DONT HAVE A GUN!"
Hey, I was between apartments. Don't judge me.
My thoughts reading this thread ventured back to the 1990's. Back then, legal concealed carry was in its infancy, and most folks weren't aware that it was legal. I had several acquaintances who knew I carried, and were discreet enough not to mention it.
However, every group has one dunce, and this guy had heard that I carried. Every time we met, he'd bug me about it. The whole idea held some weird novelty for him. One day, we had a staff meeting, and I was late because of traffic. I griped that the rubbernecking had caused more of a delay than the actual cause of the blockage.
His response? "I'd have pulled out your piece and popped a few off. That'd get folks moving." The best I could do was stammer something to the effect of, "I have no idea what you're talking about."
Of course, that was then, and this is now. The 2nd Amendment is in the popular consciousness, and outside of a few holdout areas and social niches, gun ownership is mainstream. Still, everyone has a right to their privacy, and if they want to talk about it, it should be their call.
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Uncle Billy
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I don't think it's anyone's business whether I'm CCing or not, in most circumstances. If guns come up in conversation, and I'm asked what I think of SD with a gun I'll speak in favor of it but unless I'm asked directly by someone I know and respect whether I have a gun with me I'll evade a revealing answer. I won't CC when visiting someone in their home, or any place it's illegal or pointless which is about 95% of the places I commonly go. I don't perceive any obligation to proselytize about gun rights, I'm not a fan of making guns the topic of conversation when there's so much else to talk about and other more interesting aspects of meeting people.
The NRA often comes up when guns and CC for SD are the topic of conversation with those uninvolved with guns and gun issues. But the NRA has wedded gun rights issues to right-wing politics that have nothing to do with guns, politics which I can't and won't support in the tiniest way, and which I refuse to be identified with. Because of this public marriage- take a look at the agendas and who gets picked to speak at annual NRA meetings to see what I mean- the general public sees gun rights and right-wing beliefs, politics and perspectives as one issue which they increasingly aren't any longer- a growing number of those who would stand with the NRA and us on gun issues but who, like me, won't buy into identifying themselves with philosophies and politics they abhor and oppose and so avoid the NRA so they don't have to defend themselves from inaccurate assumptions and accusations. The most rapidly growing segment of gun ownership is among people more socially and politically liberal than the NRA has unnecessarily labeled itself to be, which is why I don't talk a lot about my interest in guns and CC.
The NRA often comes up when guns and CC for SD are the topic of conversation with those uninvolved with guns and gun issues. But the NRA has wedded gun rights issues to right-wing politics that have nothing to do with guns, politics which I can't and won't support in the tiniest way, and which I refuse to be identified with. Because of this public marriage- take a look at the agendas and who gets picked to speak at annual NRA meetings to see what I mean- the general public sees gun rights and right-wing beliefs, politics and perspectives as one issue which they increasingly aren't any longer- a growing number of those who would stand with the NRA and us on gun issues but who, like me, won't buy into identifying themselves with philosophies and politics they abhor and oppose and so avoid the NRA so they don't have to defend themselves from inaccurate assumptions and accusations. The most rapidly growing segment of gun ownership is among people more socially and politically liberal than the NRA has unnecessarily labeled itself to be, which is why I don't talk a lot about my interest in guns and CC.
TheNatureBoy
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Not many among my friends are gun friendly. The ones that are speak a coded language that only we understand. I, on the other hand, am very vocal about my love and respect for fireams and I don't get bent out of shape when others go the opposite direction. I'm an American citizen, I served my country (USAF), I pay my taxes on time and aside from 1 parking ticket and two speeding tickets (21 years between the two) I haven't had any legal problems. I didn't wait for anyone to "out" me. I "out" myself every chance I get 