Automatic weapon

Would you choose an automatic weapon for HD?

  • Yes

    Votes: 45 26.0%

  • No

    Votes: 128 74.0%
  • Total voters
    173
Full automatic fire is not meant for ranges beyond 50y. Trying to put someone in their place by having them run automatic at 100y and beyond doesn't impress me one bit.

Putting sharpshooters against machine gunners is like putting a Honda up against a Ferrari. They accomplish the same thing in very different ways; apples to oranges.
 
I would if the laws and prices were prohibative.

A good 5 round burst from a subgun is scarier than the pump of a shotgun any day.
 
9 pellets all at once out of a 12ga. pump should give the BG something to think about on his way to the deck.
 
FA is difficult to use and is really only good for fire suppression and area denial neither of which is suitable or appropriate for civilian SD.
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Wellllllllllllllllllllll, it seems like "fire suppression and area denial" is exactly what I want. By the way, they work tremendously well for both of those.
 
in our current state of Living a Full auto would be useless for HD imo. first of all spray and pray could technically put 30 rounds into a BG, which most DAs and judges would look at as murder. now if we had a complete meltdown of government and became a true 3rd world country with roaming bands of Gangs Mad Max Style, i feel the only adequete SD gun would bea dillon Mini gun. but since thats not likely to happen anytime soon.....
 
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FA is difficult to use and is really only good for fire suppression and area denial neither of which is suitable or appropriate for civilian SD.
Wellllllllllllllllllllll, it seems like "fire suppression and area denial" is exactly what I want. By the way, they work tremendously well for both of those.
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Area denial, fine. But the OP was home defense. I doubt the first thing the BG is going to do is break your door down, come in and start firing down your hallway before seeing what they can take first.
 
I would definately take advantage of one. I would take a MP-5 though not an automatic rifle. I am not real good or completely confident in a shotgun. I wouldn't want to fight someone coming into my home with a FA gun.

If FA guns were legal I don't see why explaining using them on a person to a judge would pose such a problem.
 
If FA guns were legal I don't see why explaining using them on a person to a judge would pose such a problem
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its a probelme because your using exessive force. some states ( ive heard, only stater i know for sure is my own) you can only respond to a threat with lesser or equal force. say your attack with a knife, then you can only use a knife or hands to defend yourself. pumping 20-30 rounds intoa BG is excessive force. usually they consider more then 3 to be excessive, along with shooting someone in the back
 
In Ohio you're not supposed to kill bad guys...just "stop" them from killing or seriously injuring you. I'd probably be able to explain a series of double taps...but cutting the guy in half with a three second burst might be a stretch... ;)

Milspec
 
Semi-auto shotgun would be my recommendation.

Saiga 12 with a 10 round mag, anyone?

Short, controlled bursts are best in FA, but I'd still put money on multiple 00 rounds to do the trick just as well (unless you are expecting intruders with body armor).
 
Wyo Big Bore said:
Wellllllllllllllllllllll, it seems like "fire suppression and area denial" is exactly what I want.
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I am not sure you would want it, particularly after the dust settled. Both fire suppression and area denial are military terms for military applications. Not I think for civlian SD.
 
Maybe I’m missing something here but, the poll/question was “would you recommend an automatic weapon for HD?” So full-auto, no I would not, semi-auto I would.
 
No to the full auto. I will not use anything that I have not gotten a fair bit of range time with and felt that I was competent to use. Haven't shot a FA since some time in 1972 (or maybe it was 1971...). 1st choice would be a 12ga pump loaded with #4 buck. If not that, then my m39 or m639. AND a 911 call...
 
I wonder if many of the people on this thread realize that Firepower! is outside of the United States. His question is probably for his own purposes, where "DA's eating you alive" may not be a major concern. Also, the "would you choose a FA weapon" is pretty wide open, because it seems that if you are even open to the idea (with the assumptions he made in mind), then you must vote yes. I voted yes because, if cost or the law wasn't a concern, an MP5 would be great for defending my home, partly because there are no houses anywhere near mine. Where taking the law out of the equation does eliminate the legal problems with stray lead, it does not eliminate my neighborly concern for those who live near me, which is none, so FA for me (with those assumptions) would be a go.

If only those assumptions were reality for me...
 
I voted no, . . . but I been thinking that I like the idea of having a tripod mounted M-60 sitting in a sandbagged bunker on my front porch.

Of course, . . . I'd have to have my old ass't gunner on my left, . . . and that would put him in the guest room, . . . permanently.:barf:

Nahhhhhh, . . . maybe just continue with the 1911.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
You may want to provide suppressive fire if you haven't got your trauma plates taped on. In that case, I can't see carrying anything less than a full auto MP5 to defend your home. I mean, suppose the BG is attacking at a distance with a .308. You could theoretically employ an armored briefcase for cover until you got into your wheelbarrow but isn't sending a wall of lead his direction a better solution?

Anyway. I suppose it's overkill when there are plenty of viable solutions to home defense which do not involve 20+ rounds, of which only the first few are controlled.
 
I'll play:

Concerning the compromises which come with the various popular options, I prefer 5.56 carbines that are three round burst capable with the understanding that the selector switch should default to semi-automatic. Concerning close quarters, where necessary the round burst capability offers a controllable, reasonably accurate, decisive option.

Erik, whose work guns are class III, and whose personal guns are not. Do I feel underarmed and at-risk with my personal options? No.
 
The original poster Specifically Stated that "Cost and the Law"]were not considerations.
Why do so many posters chose to ignore the actual question or circumstance as stated in a thread and therefore lose entirely what the questions original author intended.:mad:
It would seem logical and certainly more considerate to the author to either address the issue as stated, instead of "Jacking" the thread or keep your thoughts to yourself!!!!

To state his original question another way,

If you were asleeep in a house in a third world S---hole where killing and kidnapping were a constant and you woke up to to a home invasion with the sounds of multiple invaders, which system would you prefer to defend yourself with???

Given this scenario, (as with the original post) my answer would be entirely different than it might be here in the states with our NFA laws, DAs,
etc etc.
 
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