ATF Project Gunrunner
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Tom Servo wrote:
You may remember George Gillett. He was the #2 guy for the Phoenix field division during Fast & Furious, and he was castigated by Issa for "failure to ensure proper supervision."
Back around Thanksgiving, Mexican beauty queen Maria Susana Flores Gamez and five others were killed in Sinaola. Guns from Fast & Furious were found at the scene.
Interestingly enough, one of those was an FN FiveSeven pistol, which was traced directly back to Mr. Gillett. Now, by "directly," I mean directly.
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Gillett purchased the weapon at Legendary Arms, a Phoenix gun store. On the federal form 4473 used to buy the gun, Gillett used the ATF office address, 201 East Washington, and said "Apt 940." On subsequent purchase, Gillett used a commercial address, that of a strip mall.
Yep, he lied on the form. What's more, he claims he later sold the gun privately to someone over the internet. Naturally, neither Gillett or the ATF has any comment on the matter.
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What have we here, another unprosecuted felony, courtesy of Obama et al, the AG is his appointee, when last I looked. Do as we say, not as we do, with the proverbial vengeance. Oh by the way, re this fiasco, where are the guardians of the public virtue, the vaunted members of The Fourth Estate, here known as "Media"and or the "free press", which by the way, is neither without cost or "free", meaning absent all manner of restrictions/special pleadings.
You may remember George Gillett. He was the #2 guy for the Phoenix field division during Fast & Furious, and he was castigated by Issa for "failure to ensure proper supervision."
Back around Thanksgiving, Mexican beauty queen Maria Susana Flores Gamez and five others were killed in Sinaola. Guns from Fast & Furious were found at the scene.
Interestingly enough, one of those was an FN FiveSeven pistol, which was traced directly back to Mr. Gillett. Now, by "directly," I mean directly.
Quote:
Gillett purchased the weapon at Legendary Arms, a Phoenix gun store. On the federal form 4473 used to buy the gun, Gillett used the ATF office address, 201 East Washington, and said "Apt 940." On subsequent purchase, Gillett used a commercial address, that of a strip mall.
Yep, he lied on the form. What's more, he claims he later sold the gun privately to someone over the internet. Naturally, neither Gillett or the ATF has any comment on the matter.
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What have we here, another unprosecuted felony, courtesy of Obama et al, the AG is his appointee, when last I looked. Do as we say, not as we do, with the proverbial vengeance. Oh by the way, re this fiasco, where are the guardians of the public virtue, the vaunted members of The Fourth Estate, here known as "Media"and or the "free press", which by the way, is neither without cost or "free", meaning absent all manner of restrictions/special pleadings.
Luger_carbine
New member
House panel tells judge settlement w/DOJ not possible
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...stice-offer-in-fast-furious-settlement-grave/
I believe the last time they were before U.S. District Judge Amy Berman she was ready to have a hearing the next week. I hope a hearing can be scheduled in the next 15 days.
It looks like the end game for the administration now is to drag this out until his third term.
(sorry - couldn't help that...)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...stice-offer-in-fast-furious-settlement-grave/
I believe the last time they were before U.S. District Judge Amy Berman she was ready to have a hearing the next week. I hope a hearing can be scheduled in the next 15 days.
It looks like the end game for the administration now is to drag this out until his third term.
(sorry - couldn't help that...)
The problem with the Attorney General being found in criminal contempt of Congress is that there's SFA Congress can do about it. They have no enforcement powers; that's the Executive Branch's territory. And Holder works for the Executive Branch.
Most that Congress can do is cut off funding, since they hold the purse strings.
Most that Congress can do is cut off funding, since they hold the purse strings.
Spats McGee
Administrator
I'm simply amazed that mediation is still on the table. Silly me, I thought once you subpoenaed something, you were past the point of negotiating over its production.
They can defund the entire [in]justice department if they want to. Since all spending bill must originate in the House, I don't think they even need the Senate's cooperation -- the House by itself might not be able to cut off funds already appropriated, but they could shut it down next budget cycle.
The thing is, Issa and Grassley are just posturing (if they meant business they would have acted a long time ago) and the rest of Congressional Republicans are just humoring them.
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Contrary to popular belief, the debacle over Fast & Furious is not dead.
From a report by David Workman in an Examiner article: What is president hiding about Fast & Furious?
David starts his column with:
Then from the Chicago Tribune: Obama resists Republican bid to see gun smuggling operation documents
Also from The Washington Post: Judge skeptical of Justice Department’s bid to dismiss Congress’ lawsuit over Fast & Furious
We all know that the courts move slowly, so it's not a surprise that months later, we might have something come about in this case. What is surprising is that a Judge appointed by Obama appears to be really looking at this, in a way that might topple Obama's claims of executive privilege.
From a report by David Workman in an Examiner article: What is president hiding about Fast & Furious?
David starts his column with:
Then from the Chicago Tribune: Obama resists Republican bid to see gun smuggling operation documents
Also from The Washington Post: Judge skeptical of Justice Department’s bid to dismiss Congress’ lawsuit over Fast & Furious
We all know that the courts move slowly, so it's not a surprise that months later, we might have something come about in this case. What is surprising is that a Judge appointed by Obama appears to be really looking at this, in a way that might topple Obama's claims of executive privilege.
Spats McGee
Administrator
I'd been wondering if anything was ever going to crop up on this again. I'd sure like to see more action on it, but I am (quite frankly) just relieved that it isn't totally dead.
Luger_carbine
New member
This article brings up the possibility that Dennis Burke could be disbarred...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...al-retaliated-against-furious-whistle-blower/
Another article, and a link to the report:
http://www.examiner.com/article/grassley-blasts-doj-treatment-of-gunwalking-whistleblower
http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/2013/s1305.pdf
It may be that with 3 scandals going - Benghazi, IRS and the AP scandal, that news agencies who glossed over this in years past will take a more serious look at what really happened. I think the administration and Holder especially has lost credibility, with the public but especially the media. Maybe the fact that the president claimed executive privilege will get more coverage...