Anything Good About The Gwb Administration????

REbar I don;t know where you got your info but gwb never served one single day of active duty
That's a lie, he served plenty of active duty time, over two years worth as I proved:
Bush joined in May 1968. He went through six weeks of basic training — a full-time job — at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Then he underwent 53 weeks of flight training — again, full time — at Moody Air Force Base in Valdosta, Ga. Then he underwent 21 weeks of fighter interceptor training — full time — at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston. Counting other, shorter, postings in between, by the end of his training period Bush had served two years on active duty.

During that period Bush's superiors gave him consistently high ratings as a pilot. "Lt. Bush is an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer," wrote one in a 1972 evaluation. Another evaluation, in 1971, called Bush "an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot" who "continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase his proficiency even further." And a third rating, in 1970, said Bush "clearly stands out as a top notch fighter interceptor pilot" and was also "a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership."
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200402180840.asp

In the end, the liberal/left had to forge documents to try and pin this libel to Bush. But I guess even that won't stop some from continuing to tell the lie.
 
Man, don't argue with BIGJACK, he knows it all. He even thinks he knows something about wartime economics. :rolleyes:

John
 
+1 mikeyboy

Well said.

One nitpick, I don't think anyone thinks he can walk on water. ;-)
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Rebar, obviously you were never in the military or at least never served on a station where National guard performed their "active" duty back in those days. Otherwise youwould know that to call their "trainning" active duty is slightly short of being a joke. Furthermore you need to consider who wrote that propaganda for gwb-fact is He was here (in alabama) and he did not show up for his obligations as is pointed out in your own article (1972). Note that 50 hrs is minimum not normal or average to maintain status.
As for you johnbt, arnt you the dumbxxx that said that the US sold war bonds during WW11 so folks would not have enough money to buy stuff thus raising the prices. heheeh!!!!!!
 
Rebar, obviously you were never in the military or at least never served on a station where National guard performed their "active" duty back in those days.
In fact I did serve in the Army Reserve. Are you denigrating my service, or the service of the people who served in the Reserve or Guard? It sure sounds that way.

As far as the Air National Guard, flying jets is flying jets, and Bush flew jets. And by all reports, he flew them well. I see you abandoned your position that he didn't serve active duty time, so I guess that's progress. But the article did not "prove" you point about his service in Alabama:
The records indicate that, despite his move to Alabama, Bush met his obligation to the Guard in the 1972-73 year. At that time, Guardsmen were awarded points based on the days they reported for duty each year. They were given 15 points just for being in the Guard, and were then required to accumulate a total of 50 points to satisfy the annual requirement. In his first four years of service, Bush piled up lots of points; he earned 253 points in his first year, 340 in his second, 137 in his third, and 112 in his fourth. For the year from May 1972 to May 1973, records show Bush earned 56 points, a much smaller total, but more than the minimum requirement (his service was measured on a May-to-May basis because he first joined the Guard in that month in 1968).

Bush then racked up another 56 points in June and July of 1973, which met the minimum requirement for the 1973-74 year, which was Bush's last year of service. Together, the record "clearly shows that First Lieutenant George W. Bush has satisfactory years for both '72-'73 and '73-'74, which proves that he completed his military obligation in a satisfactory manner," says retired Lt. Col. Albert Lloyd, a Guard personnel officer who reviewed the records at the request of the White House.
The facts are clear - Bush served his ANG term with honor. Why the liberal/left insists on lieing and denigrating his service only shows their true colors, there is no lie too ugly or depths of sleeze too deep that will keep them from advancing their socialist and anti-American agenda.

That you keep parroting their lies, despite being shown clear evidence to the contrary, and that you mock those who served in the Guard and Reserves, shows something about you as well.

For those who want to be mad at a real draft dodger, I offer you Bill Clinton:
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
 
Anything Good About The Gwb Administration????

Absolutely. Restoring, preserving, or promoting growth in the value of investments is priority one and will ultimately explain everything government does. Related but second priority is constraining inflation, preserving spending power. The Bush administration has done an outstanding job of tending to these priorities. That is only a problem if those priorities are not your own. Just don't ask a poor man for a job.
 
Hey, I bet ;you even think he landed that plane (S2F I believe) on the carrier where he made his famous "mission accomplished" speach.
Yea I had "some" friends in the guard at that time, they got there the same way, poitical pull, and were there for the same reason gwb was, to dodge the active duty draft!!!!!!!!!!!:D
 
Hey, I bet ;you even think he landed that plane (S2F I believe) on the carrier where he made his famous "mission accomplished" speach.
Hey, you should stop putting words in my mouth, I said nothing about that.
Yea I had "some" friends in the guard at that time, they got there the same way, poitical pull, and were there for the same reason gwb was, to dodge the active duty draft!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot speak about your friends. However, it's been well proven that Bush's appointment to the ANG had nothing to do with political pull:
There was one big exception to this abusive use of the Guard to avoid the draft, and that was for those who wanted to fly, as pilots or crew members. Because of the training required, signing up for this duty meant up to 2½ years of active duty for training alone, plus a high probability of mobilization. A fighter-pilot candidate selected by the Guard (such as Lt. Bush and me) would be spending the next two years on active duty going through basic training (six weeks), flight training (one year), survival training (two weeks) and combat crew training for his aircraft (six to nine months), followed by local checkout (up to three more months) before he was even deemed combat-ready. Because the draft was just two years, you sure weren't getting out of duty being an Air Guard pilot. If the unit to which you were going back was an F-100, you were mobilized for Vietnam. Avoiding service? Yeah, tell that to those guys.

The Bush critics do not comprehend the dangers of fighter aviation at any time or place, in Vietnam or at home, when they say other such pilots were risking their lives or even dying while Lt. Bush was in Texas. Our Texas ANG unit lost several planes right there in Houston during Lt. Bush's tenure, with fatalities. Just strapping on one of those obsolescing F-102s was risking one's life.
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20040210-082910-8424r.htm
 
"As for you johnbt, arnt you the dumbxxx that said..."

You can't remember?

John

P.S. - Too much money chasing too few goods DOES drive up prices. Sheesh, I thought everybody knew that.
 
"there was one big exception to this abuse of the guard"?????????
seems that you imply one could not get that trainning in the regular military!
Fact is it is no coincident that gwb was in the guard instead of the regular millitary. Fathers and fathers friends got him there and he shirked his duties, and most every one knows it.
Man I was stationed at installations where guard and reserve members got their "trainning". Saw them straggling to the chow hall 2 or 3 hours after we (the regulars) had started drilling. Saw them lolly gagging around a couple of hours at noon when we were lucky to get 30 minutes, saw them mulling around like a bunch of squirrel hunters and saw them heading out to town about dusk while we were either cleaning the barracks, washing our cloths or drilling.
 
Fact is it is no coincident that gwb was in the guard instead of the regular millitary. Fathers and fathers friends got him there and he shirked his duties, and most every one knows it.
Well then, it should be easy to prove. Do so.
Man I was stationed at installations where guard and reserve members got their "trainning".
When I was in the Army Reserve, Active, Guard, and Reserve all trained together, in the same platoons, exactly the same to the exact same standards. Are you claiming that somehow ANG pilots didn't train according to Air Force standards? Where's your evidence of that?

I showed that Bush served his term honorably, all you can do is tear him down without the least shred of evidence. I don't give a damn about what you think you saw, frankly I think your service consisted of watching some war movies. No veteran of any service I've ever known would tear another person's service down unless there was some pretty substantial proof. I gave my proof, you gave nothing but moveon.org propaganda. CBS news investigated Bush's service for five years, and in the end had to forge documents to try and fool the American people.

So where's your proof? I gave sources for every statement I made, you haven't made a single one. Parroting moveon.org and DU propaganda might impress on those boards, but here you'd better come up with real solid proof.
 
I do not accept your proof. Its just a fabrication, cover up, by gwbs croonies that are on the payroll. The extent of interaction between the regulars and reservist in the 50 and 60s was to the extent that the reservist go on the same drill fields after the regulars moved on to some other activity.
As a veteran I resent any one who dodged the draft in any maner and the facts were gwb did not receive pay for several pay periods because he had not earned any. Fact remains, if you are not were you are supposed to be, when you are supposed to be there, you are AWOL and that is what happened with gwb in Alabama during his campaigning for Winton Blunt.
I don;t give a hoot what you believe as it appears that you were one of the folks who joined the reserves to dodge the draft anyhow but sene me your email address and I will send you a copy of my discharge, dd214 and awards.
 
Its just a fabrication, cover up, by gwbs croonies that are on the payroll.
ok, prove that then.
I resent any one who dodged the draft in any maner and the facts were gwb did not receive pay for several pay periods because he had not earned any.
All that was explained. Oh wait, I forgot, it's all a big conspiracy. Funny how the liberal/left, when boxed in by facts, pull out the "it's all a conspiracy/coverup/men in black" nonsense.
I don;t give a hoot what you believe as it appears that you were one of the folks who joined the reserves to dodge the draft anyhow
LOL, you know so much about me. I joined well after the draft ended, so there was nothing to dodge. I joined to serve my country, you have a problem with that? Do you think my service was somehow less valuable then yours?

Again, your tone and statements do not strike me as someone who served. More like a wannabe DU/Moveon.org troll. I ask you to prove your claims, all you do is pull out more rediculous unfounded claims, as if you just cut-and-paste from the michael moore website.
 
"You must be really chaffed that we kicked your butt the last election and we're going to kick your butt the next election."

You know what cures chaffing?

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John
 
Kicked Butt??????

Lost the popular vote to Gore, won against Kerry by less than 3%, thats kicking butt???? Lamblasting the media is sort of like the old Ber Rabbit story, if not for the media gwb would not have won either time. It was the media that played the same ole story both times(the so called Swift Boat group, a group that by their own admission ran when the shooting started and didn;t really see anything, which some chose to believe against every single man on ;the boat with him and the man who was rescued). You gotta admit had that card not been played gwb would not have won.
If you was interested in serving the country why did you not join the regular service? Maybe you was simply looking for an easy buck, sinse up until ole W started calling um up they simply "stood by." And now they can't get anyone to join either.

"THAT WE STAND BY THE PRESIDENT RIGHT OR WRONG IS NOT ONLY UNPATRIOTIC AND SERVILE BUT IS MORALLY TREASONABLE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE." THEODORE ROOSEVELT

"IF TYRANNY AND OPPRESSION COME TO THIS COUNTRY IT WILL BE IN THE GUISE OF FIGHTING A FOREIGN ENEMY." JAMES MADISON
 
"Maybe you was simply looking for an easy buck..."

What do you do for fun when you aren't insulting people?

John
 
Here are three biggies for GWB's administration:

- Did not push for extension of the so-called Assault Weapons Ban

- Will sign Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms act (to banish frivolous, predatory lawsuits against the firearms industry for the acts of criminals)

- Bush's Justice Department established the position (once again) that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms, not a b.s. "collective" right



Even if those turned out to be the only three good things done by this administration, they still put it head and shoulders above that despicable Clinton administration.


But on top of those things, the Bush administration has shown that we will stand up to dictators and topple them, and we will not suffer attacks against our innocent civilians. I don't give a rat's crap that countries like France (which was on the take from Saddam!) or Italy (socialist regime) don't like us for it. That's too friggin' bad. We should worry what cowardly pissants who take money from murderous dictators and then oppose going after him because it will destroy their racket think?! :barf:


-blackmind
 
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