.327 Federal Club thread

Perhaps I've missed it (maybe even probably) but have there been any detailed cases of the .327 being used in self defense since its' introduction? I'm hoping to get one at some point regardless, but would be interested to see any info from real world use.
 
have there been any detailed cases of the .327 being used in self defense since its' introduction? I'm hoping to get one at some point regardless, but would be interested to see any info from real world use.
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There have been no cases that we are aware of.
 
I was looking at my 10/22 yesterday and thought that it's a neat little rifle. Also, that we had a thread with the usual blather about whether a 22 rifle would be a good SD tool (typical rants).

However, I want thinking that one could strenghten the basic 10/22 size frame with perhaps a box mag instead of the rotary in 327 and that would be a neat little rifle.

As far as SD shootings with the 327, it would all be about shot placement before we could decide anything.
 
That's pretty much it -- it would be an M1 Carbine, but with a rimmed case. It's like re-inventing the wheel, but doing it with blocks. :confused:

A lever action rifle, now that's a different story.
 
That's pretty much it -- it would be an M1 Carbine, but with a rimmed case. It's like re-inventing the wheel, but doing it with blocks.

A lever action rifle, now that's a different story.
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I still think a 77/327 would be a great rifle, but do fully support the lever action concept. ;)

I've been keeping my eyes out for a beat-to-death 77/22 Hornet or 77/44, to convert to .327; but nobody ever sells them. And if they do, the shop still wants MSRP for the POS. :(
A new breech block (forward half of the "bolt"), .22 Hornet magazine feed lip modification, and a barrel should be all that would be needed. ...if I ever find a donor.
 
I was wondering was if any posters in this thread have had the S&W 632 pro series model long enough (and put enough rounds through it) to put some wear and tear on it and how has it held up?
 
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327 mag/ 77

Been told by several [ expert ] gunsmiths that the Ruger 77 / 22h/44/357/ rimfire will not hold the pressure . Want to build a Ruger 77 in 5mm rem rimfire but they say its too much pressure also. BUT a rifle of that size would be great in 327 .:):)
 
Been told by several [ expert ] gunsmiths that the Ruger 77 / 22h/44/357/ rimfire will not hold the pressure . Want to build a Ruger 77 in 5mm rem rimfire but they say its too much pressure also.
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I don't buy it. I think they're shooting from the hip, and never bothered to actually check it out. A few quick calculations will give you a general idea of whether it will work.

The .327 Federal runs 45,000 psi.
The .44 Mag runs 36,000 psi.
The .357 Mag runs 35,000 psi.
The .22 Hornet runs 45,000 psi (same as .327 Federal).
The 5mm Remington Mag runs 33,000 psi (quite high for a rimfire).
And, for comparison, the .22 WMR runs 24,000 psi.


Bolt thrust with those cartridges would be:
.327 Federal - 4,970 lbs
.44 Mag - 7,469 lbs
.357 Mag - 5,321 lbs
.22 Hornet - 4,329 lbs
5mm Rem - 2,720 lbs
.22 WMR - 1,673 lbs

Force exerted on the chamber walls would be approximately:
.327 Federal - 47,642 lbs
.44 mag - 51,685 lbs
.357 Mag - 41,673 lbs
.22 Hornet - 50,893 lbs
5mm Rem - 21,480 lbs
.22 WMR - 6,040 lbs

The .44 Mag exceeds the .327 Federal in both regards, and .327 nearly matches the .22 Hornet. I would have absolutely no reservations about putting the .327 Federal in a centerfire model.

As for the 5mm Rem... I probably wouldn't chamber it in one of the old v-block-barrel rimfire versions of the 77/22; but I wouldn't hesitate to convert one of the newer threaded versions (they're all heat treated, threaded, and torqued now) or one of the centerfire models.
 
Exactly, the 327 may be much higher pressure, but the case head area is MUCH smaller.

Good work on the math FrankenMauser.
 
Reloading dies for 327 fed mag

Good evening gents I purchased a Blackhawk SS .327 Fed Mag over the weekend. Being the weather is sooo crappy I would like to reload this. What dies are everyone using ? Lee suggests getting the .32 H&R mag dies. Are these OK to use I guess they don't have a specific 327 die set ? Also one last question what about brass . The 32 H&R brass can you use this brass or is this not recommended ? 327 fed brass is hard to come by. Thanks in advance for any replies. Steve
 
Congrats, the .327 Blackhawk is a fun combination.
We have a load data thread here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454312

The Blackhawk will safely fire .32 S&W, .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R, and .327 Federal. Some shooters also successfully fire .32 Auto (including me), but I can't recommend it to an inexperienced shooter.

RCBS, Lee, Redding, Lyman, and Hornady .32 H&R dies will work perfectly well. (I use a combination of Lyman, Lee, Redding, and RCBS dies to reload for my Blackhawk, for everything from .32 Auto to .327 Federal.)
CH4D dies will also work, but are a bit more expensive.

Although I have a decent amount of .32 Auto and .32 S&W brass, I don't load them often. The long jump from the case mouth to the cylinder throat can lead to unpredictable performance (poor accuracy, or losing the gas seal too soon). I have found the best performance and predictability to come from .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R, and .327 brass.
 
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I have been reloading .327 mag with Lee .32 H&R magnum dies for some time and have had great success with the combination. Also note that I was even able to use the H & R mag Lee Factory Crimp for the .327. Was able to buy some new .327 cases from Midway recently.

willr
 
Willr Thanks for letting me know about Lee dies. That's what I was planning to purchase for my Turret press. I see Midway is out of brass but I'm sure they'll get some in the near future.
 
Willr Thanks for letting me know about Lee dies. That's what I was planning to purchase for my Turret press. I see Midway is out of brass but I'm sure they'll get some in the near future
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Hello Steve1
I have always used a set of Lee dies for the .32 S&W Long Cartridge to load for my .32 S&W Long rounds as well as my .32 H&R Magnum and Federal .327 Magnum rounds as it works with all Three calibers just fine... Hammer It
 
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