Would you put a red dot on a defensive handgun?

Handgun, no, carbine, yes (especially co-witnessing). For just about situation, open sights are better for target acquisition while limiting tunnel vision. Enen with open sights, you should train to break tunnel vision with a full 360 quick scan though.
 
Enevtually probably. I would use one for home defense. But a carry gun get's banged around alot. Want to be sure it's up to EDC. They appear to be their with rifles. Handguns should be nest. Fired a couple of guns with them on them. Loved the set up.
 
Red dots on defensive handguns are old news. A police officer friend has been carrying a Glock 26 with an Optima dot sight for around eleven years now. Here's a link to an article I wrote on it back in 2001 when he had only been using it for 15 months. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_153_25/ai_75211952/

He still uses the same gun and sight. He changes batteries annually, though he says he forgot once and had the same battery in for two years (it sill functioned fine). Only once has the point of aim needed to be adjusted, after he let a couple of other officers take it to the range to try and they evidently fiddled with the adjustments.

He has fitted a slightly taller front sight (I think with a tritium insert) which when the dot is used, is just visible at the bottom of the sight window. If the dot should go out for any reason he can index using the front sight.

At close range there isn't any appreciable difference in speed/accuracy over iron sights. As ranges get past 10 - 15 yards the dot is faster. In low light it is so far superior he says "it's like cheating". His low-light qualification scores increased by 400% - and this is a shooter who is an IPSC Master, PPC Grand Master competitor.

For the shooter of average skill the margin of improvement is even more dramatic.

The only issue I see remaining is durability for open carry, say for uniformed officers (my friend mostly worked in plainclothes with the pistol concealed under a jacket). For open carry I'd be a bit concerned about the sight hitting things like car doors and steering wheels. One option may be a holster designed to protect the sight from impact.
 
Red dots on defensive handguns are old news.
Yes, that's true. Kelly McCann has been using a Doctor on his G19 for a while now.

But the new breed (DeltaPoint; RMR) are so much better than the older JPoint, Doctor and Optima.
 
No... but I do use the crimson trace lasergrips on my LCP, SR9C and soon on My LC9 and I still have the use of my regular sights.

I have a M4 that has an EoTech sight on it and a FNP tactical .45 that has a burris fastfire II on it. If the battery dies I can still use the iron sights.

If you look at the military you see ACOGs and other optical style sights now. I suppose that one day technology will make them smaller for most semi auto pistols.
 
I've shot a number of handguns and rifles with Aimpoint or "red dot sights." My eyes just don't like that kind of aiming setup. By all accounts what models I've seen installed were pretty delicate and had a tendency to sight drift.

I have had a number of handguns with both Crimson Trace laser grips and with the LaserMax recoil spring laser sight. Both exhibited quality in workmanship. Laser and bullet dead on at 50 feet, (factory setting?)

Attacked on the street in the dark you may only have a couple of seconds to react.

Do you have time to raise the gun to a level where the Aimpoint or "red dot sight" are accurate?

Are your iron night sights visible enough? Do the sights get confused with other light elements such as headlights or street lights?

The laser sight will instantly alert the attacker that you're armed. (Unless of course you're using a laser pointer - "the one used with the Power Point presentation from earlier that day."

You may only have time to point and shoot. In this respect the laser will aid greatly in determining both path and impact of the bullet strike.

On the other hand hopefully all of us who carry never have to use it to defend life or property.
 
Interesting video showing the use of an RDS-sighted handgun.
The zip line stage looks fun. :)

I've shot a number of handguns and rifles with Aimpoint or "red dot sights." My eyes just don't like that kind of aiming setup. By all accounts what models I've seen installed were pretty delicate and had a tendency to sight drift.
I dont yet have any on my handguns, but I soon see it coming. The Aimpoints I have on my long guns have been rugged and rock solid, and even on my full autos, never missed a beat. Theres nothing "delicate" about them, and mine have never been knocked out of zero, even with hard use. Now, some of the "cheaper" sights are a different story, and I learned quick that in the long run, cheap stuff costs more than expensive stuff.


Do you have time to raise the gun to a level where the Aimpoint or "red dot sight" are accurate?
If youre that close and its that imperative, does it really matter?

You may only have time to point and shoot. In this respect the laser will aid greatly in determining both path and impact of the bullet strike.
If youre point shooting, you should be shooting, not looking for a "dot" on the target. The target should already be shot.

Do the sights get confused with other light elements such as headlights or street lights?
Its never been an issue on my long guns. The red dot looks nothing like a headlight or street light, or even a stop light. Its also right there looking in the same place as my eye, and Im not "looking for it out in space", like you have to do with the lasers.

The laser sight will instantly alert the attacker that you're armed.
If he gets to see the laser, youre to slow. ;)
 
No, I want no dependence on powered technology in such an emergecy situation. The only powered technology that accompanies my weapon in the house is a hand-held tactical flashlight.

Nightsights are as high-tech as I will go on a weapon.
 
Trijicon has a mini-red dot (RMR) that does not require batteries. I've inquired about having my FNP-40 fitted for the RMR. I'm not old and at the range I'm a pretty good shot, but my eyes arent as fast as they once were. I'm looking forward to having such a device installed.
 
Don't have red dots on SD weapons but currently have a total of three revolvers with CTL grips on them and two are used for CC/SD.

Would I put a red dot on a SD weapon...no don't think I would. Probably just stick with a good set of night sights.
 
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Mine, done by One Source Tactical/TSD:

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Looks good Smince. Hows it shoot? :)

Hows all that work though with holsters? That higher front sight looks like it could be somewhat of a problem. Are you pretty much stuck with what OST has to offer?
 
Which brand and model is that sight on your pistol?
JP Enterprise' J-Point. 4MOA dot. They have discontinued the larger dot sizes.
Hows all that work though with holsters? That higher front sight looks like it could be somewhat of a problem. Are you pretty much stuck with what OST has to offer?
I have one of their standard ArchAngel holsters. Other than making a slot cut for the sight, it fits fine. I've read that many have good luck with BladeTech and other holster offerings.

Previously, I had the RDS in the dovetail mount with an even higher front and most all the holsters I have worked ok.

I have an Uncle Mikes paddle holster that won't work with this gun anymore, but I rarely used it anyway. My other Glock's still fit it.
Hows it shoot?
Just got it back yesterday and it has been raining here all day :barf:
 
Nope. I want no gadgets straddling, hanging onto, or otherwise bolted onto my carry guns...particularly anything with a battery. Just my preference.
 
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