jackmoser65
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Because we didn't learn to shoot from John McClane.
So would I--if I were endangered by a large animal.I would take a single well placed shot of .44 mag over 15 9mm rounds any day if my life depended on it.
This, plus it's fun.IMO, practicing at 25 yards with an Airweight or Airlight J Frame forces me to concentrate on the fundamentals such as sight picture and trigger control. Getting those things right at 25 yards makes me better and faster at closer ranges. I also shoot with a timer both up close and at distances out to 25 yards. I use my sights up close unless it's a contact or retention situation.
What part of my initial post is out of your grasp - or - are you just trying to be a jerk?If you have to qualify the statement by saying it is only as good when the 357 is fired from the shortest available barrel, you already lost the horsepower debate.
This, plus it's fun.
The reality is that a lot of defensive encounters are up close and personal. There are factors like surprise, adrenaline, possible injury, and all sorts of unpredictable stuff in the mix. Accepting our limitations and tempering our expectations can be valuable things. Doing drills and taking training courses can help. Pushing ourselves with fun challenges, like bursting a moldy apple on a fence post with our tiny CCW, can also help. A big part of it is enhancing our overall relationship with our tools, making them less something to think about and more an extension of ourselves.
I think it usually has to do with how much weight and bulk they want to carry for the manner in which they choose to dress, any gun better than none. I can take it a step further with either a custom GP100 in 41 Special that holds 6 or a 32 Federal Magnum that holds 6 of a subsonic reload or 32 H&R Magnum hollow points. One is trying to make big holes, while the other is the smaller, lighter gun. Neither is a pocket gun but I do own two in that category, one of them carried in my go bag (guy purse) in addition to my carry gun. That go bag has more ammo for either gun. I also have a speed strip in a belt holder.I'm new to owning a revolver, and I'm not asking this question to start any fights. But I noticed that amongst semi auto carriers, you get a range of heated opinions over whether 7 rounds, 15 rounds, or 30 rounds are ever "enough"
Given that a CCW revolver carries maybe 7 at most, depending on caliber, with 5 being typical -- and reloads are much more challenging even with practice -- do revolver carriers just have a different philosophy of what counts as "enough?"
Maybe--sometimes.Hi-cap semiautos may be fired spray-and-pray, while a revolver can be much more deliberate and ammo-efficient, with all due respect to those especially proficient with a semi-auto.
So would I--if I were endangered by a large animal.
I think that's the key. If you could find a bullet made for very aggressive expansion and penetration limited to around 14", then it probably wouldn't be a bad choice for self-defense against humans. But not with tough bullets designed for deep penetration.Assuming the proper bullet selection is made, why would you prefer one over the other?
The XDE is an underrated firearm. Too many people are terrified of a double action trigger and have been told it's impossible to achieve accuracy with anything above 6 lb.I think it usually has to do with how much weight and bulk they want to carry for the manner in which they choose to dress, any gun better than none. I can take it a step further with either a custom GP100 in 41 Special that holds 6 or a 32 Federal Magnum that holds 6 of a subsonic reload or 32 H&R Magnum hollow points. One is trying to make big holes, while the other is the smaller, lighter gun. Neither is a pocket gun but I do own two in that category, one of them carried in my go bag (guy purse) in addition to my carry gun. That go bag has more ammo for either gun. I also have a speed strip in a belt holder.
One gun in my carry rotation is a single stack XDE 9mm, which holds 8+1 or 9+1 with the extended mag that reduces concealability. I carry an additional mag in tactical pants.
Bare minimum, I have an ultralight Smith 637 that holds 5, my better-than-none gun when warranted. That is the gun I always have in the go bag but can be IWB or pocket carried. I mean, what do you carry when you walk the dog in your pajamas? That could be that little 38 or a P40 in a shoulder rig.
When you compare a 124 grain 9mm +P out of a full sized gun, to a 125 grain .357 magnum out of a 2" and/or 1 7/8 " barrel, the 9mm is right there with it & there's no way the 5 shot & an extra speedloader - which still leaves you short of what the 9 can hold - come anywhere close to being a carriable.
What part of my initial post is out of your grasp - or - are you just trying to be a jerk?
To repeat - I said a full sized Browning Hi Power is nearly the exact same size as a S&W M 66 2" barrel.
Take it as you want....
Hi-cap semiautos may be fired spray-and-pray, while a revolver can be much more deliberate and ammo-efficient, with all due respect to those especially proficient with a semi-auto. In a way, that tends toward evening the score between the revolver and the semiauto in terms of round count capability.
I think that's the key. If you could find a bullet made for very aggressive expansion and penetration limited to around 14", then it probably wouldn't be a bad choice for self-defense against humans. But not with tough bullets designed for deep penetration.
I was beginning to think "sensibility" was becoming something else we have lost. Nice to see some do understand. It is amazing how some look at you like you have a third eye when you bring up the aisle length at the market too. Its even funnier when you tell them across the front of the store, or back to front is nearly a 100, if not more.I practice out to 25 yards. That’s the length of a store aisle. Considering what has happened AT Walmart in Texas, It’s not out of the realm of reality. But your, right, about aimed shooting. It is not something spontaneous, either.
I point shoot out to 10 yards. I can point shoot from the hip to 7 yards. I can also shoot with either hand. Shooting out of the pocket is something you can do with a revolver, also.
I’m just saying that One needs to be able to widen the possibilities and not be fixed in the paradigm of just one person attacking at bad breath distances these days.
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