jackmoser65
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Because we didn't learn to shoot from John McClane.
Why don't revolver carriers worry about capacity?
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OldMarksman
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So would I--if I were endangered by a large animal.
Cosmodragoon
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This, plus it's fun.
The reality is that a lot of defensive encounters are up close and personal. There are factors like surprise, adrenaline, possible injury, and all sorts of unpredictable stuff in the mix. Accepting our limitations and tempering our expectations can be valuable things. Doing drills and taking training courses can help. Pushing ourselves with fun challenges, like bursting a moldy apple on a fence post with our tiny CCW, can also help. A big part of it is enhancing our overall relationship with our tools, making them less something to think about and more an extension of ourselves.
My friend can shoot his j frame out to 100 yards. I have been about to reach out to 50 yards. I need to work on reaching 75 yards. He’s the one who pushed me beyond shooting 10 yards. He also pushed me to learn shooting with either hand.
However, the reason I do this, is not necessarily to hit someone that far (I think it would be a massive stretch to justify that in self defense), but it’s the skill to do so. Plus, aimed shooting is fun.
However, we all need to be flexible enough to shoot near, and far. When I compete, anything 10 yards and in is all instinctive/point shooting. Same goes for my carry gun.
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I think it usually has to do with how much weight and bulk they want to carry for the manner in which they choose to dress, any gun better than none. I can take it a step further with either a custom GP100 in 41 Special that holds 6 or a 32 Federal Magnum that holds 6 of a subsonic reload or 32 H&R Magnum hollow points. One is trying to make big holes, while the other is the smaller, lighter gun. Neither is a pocket gun but I do own two in that category, one of them carried in my go bag (guy purse) in addition to my carry gun. That go bag has more ammo for either gun. I also have a speed strip in a belt holder.
One gun in my carry rotation is a single stack XDE 9mm, which holds 8+1 or 9+1 with the extended mag that reduces concealability. I carry an additional mag in tactical pants.
Bare minimum, I have an ultralight Smith 637 that holds 5, my better-than-none gun when warranted. That is the gun I always have in the go bag but can be IWB or pocket carried. I mean, what do you carry when you walk the dog in your pajamas? That could be that little 38 or a P40 in a shoulder rig.
J.G. Terry
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Big mean animal?
Big mean animal? :What sort of monstrous animal are we speaking?
Big mean animal? :What sort of monstrous animal are we speaking?
Hi-cap semiautos may be fired spray-and-pray, while a revolver can be much more deliberate and ammo-efficient, with all due respect to those especially proficient with a semi-auto. In a way, that tends toward evening the score between the revolver and the semiauto in terms of round count capability.
OldMarksman
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Maybe--sometimes.
But--if an attacker is closing at five meters per second at close range, and the small critical body parts are internal, invisible, moving , and will be struck only as a matter of probability and the number of rounds that enter the body, how could a revolver shooter be more "deliberate" and end up standing?
Andy Blozinski
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My concealed carry revolver is a .357 magnum w/ 4" barrel loaded with hollow point deer hunting rounds.
I'm not that good with a pistol, but I figure if I can get one decent hit, it's gonna cause some trouble for that which I wish to stop. If there's more than one attacker, I might need to be a little careful on shooting, but one attacker should be taken care of with 6 shots. If I need more than that, maybe I stink or maybe I needed more than a pistol for the heinous gunfight I apparently got myself into.
My other concealed carry is a 15 shot .380 loaded with traditional round nose FMJ bullets.
A well placed hit or multiple decently placed hits should get the job done for one attacker. In the event of more than one attacker or if I need to suppress, I have excess ammo to get the job done.
I'm not that good with a pistol, but I figure if I can get one decent hit, it's gonna cause some trouble for that which I wish to stop. If there's more than one attacker, I might need to be a little careful on shooting, but one attacker should be taken care of with 6 shots. If I need more than that, maybe I stink or maybe I needed more than a pistol for the heinous gunfight I apparently got myself into.
My other concealed carry is a 15 shot .380 loaded with traditional round nose FMJ bullets.
A well placed hit or multiple decently placed hits should get the job done for one attacker. In the event of more than one attacker or if I need to suppress, I have excess ammo to get the job done.
The XDE is an underrated firearm. Too many people are terrified of a double action trigger and have been told it's impossible to achieve accuracy with anything above 6 lb.
The XDE is hardly a fantastic trigger but it's not bad and I appreciate having that extra pressure between me and the first shot. I've been shooting DA/SA semi auto for years, Beretta 92 and CZ P-07. I always shoot more in DA than SA.
that may be why when I picked up my first J frame revolver only a few weeks ago, I was able to be fairly accurate with it out to 10 yards without very much practice. If anything, the trigger is actually smoother than those on most of the semi-autos.
What you said, in part.
Not trying to be a jerk, but apparently succeeding. I noticed the size comparison between my fullsize Glock 357 Sig, S&W Model 13 " and a 1911 commander.
Yep, the Glock and and extra mag is nicer to carry than the 6 gun and speed loaders. The only time I carry the J frame is as a BUG also known as a 2nd gun.
To be honest this whole subject seems like a recipe for banning standard capacity mags.
J.G. Terry
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I made the comment in one forum that my G23 was no wider nor longer than the revolver in question. The reply was the Glock is boxy forward of the trigger guard. How can you argue with observations like that.
Some people do not need guns. A guy showed me a high condition Colt Pocket Positive in 32 S&W. I asked him if it were a family piece. No, he replied explaining a citizen had attempted to rob him. When asked, he continued that he punched him,the robber, out and took the revolver. What happened to the gunman? Last seen, he was crawling on his hands and knees trying to get away. I'm thinking that punch may have been minimized. Point of the story is not to wave a gun at somebody as a threat even if it's a J frame Smith.
I'm not a Glock fanboy but do find the guns very satisfactory for what they were made. That is a combat firearm. I was reading the latest edition of gun rag testing. For real, the number of Glock knockoff is unbelievable.
Some people do not need guns. A guy showed me a high condition Colt Pocket Positive in 32 S&W. I asked him if it were a family piece. No, he replied explaining a citizen had attempted to rob him. When asked, he continued that he punched him,the robber, out and took the revolver. What happened to the gunman? Last seen, he was crawling on his hands and knees trying to get away. I'm thinking that punch may have been minimized. Point of the story is not to wave a gun at somebody as a threat even if it's a J frame Smith.
I'm not a Glock fanboy but do find the guns very satisfactory for what they were made. That is a combat firearm. I was reading the latest edition of gun rag testing. For real, the number of Glock knockoff is unbelievable.
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Savvy_Jack
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I have carried a single action revolver, daily, for over 15 years. Started carrying daily after I had one too many knives pulled on me. Had to pull a gun out five times after that but never had to shoot anyone. Made a dog change his mind once when every shot put dirt in his face..(it was a young girls dog and I am glad I didn't have to kill it)....he stopped on his last chance, killed several rattlesnakes in the yard. Even had a neighbor even yell at me once if I had my gun on me to come shoot a snake...I did. Hope to never have to even point one at a human, but if I do, it's the gun I know how to use.
The first handgun I ever noticed shooting more than 6 rounds was while watching Lethal Weapon (1987). After that I wanted a Beretta 92F - 9x19mm, but always wanted a 1911 but never owned either. My wife owns several semi-autos and I do carry one on occasions, but my main weapon is my brain.
There is no sense in cops being outgunned, even the playing field....carry enough for the fight but I use what I want...mainly because I don't go looking for one.
If you ever see an old man carrying a well worn single action army, I suggest you leave him alone! He knows how to use more than just the gun.
The first handgun I ever noticed shooting more than 6 rounds was while watching Lethal Weapon (1987). After that I wanted a Beretta 92F - 9x19mm, but always wanted a 1911 but never owned either. My wife owns several semi-autos and I do carry one on occasions, but my main weapon is my brain.
There is no sense in cops being outgunned, even the playing field....carry enough for the fight but I use what I want...mainly because I don't go looking for one.
If you ever see an old man carrying a well worn single action army, I suggest you leave him alone! He knows how to use more than just the gun.
Capacity is for missing a lot, OR hitting a lot of enemies. NOT for covering fire if you are not in open war. If you miss a lot you will probably be in a lot of trouble because every bullet you fire WILL hit...........something. Things other then your enemy or your own property will be a legal lever for a cop to arrest you and your government to prosecute you.
Maybe revolver shooters are a bit old-fashioned and maybe being old means many can shoot well because of a lot of years in doing it.
Just something to consider. Not a premise based on a mountain of documented info, but speaking only for myself, I do not feel a bit under-armed when I am carrying my revolver.
I carry them a lot. More times I am carrying an auto, but if I were to guess, I'd say about 40% of the time I have a revolver. It's not uncommon for me to kill running animals with my revolvers from jack rabbits, coyotes, foxes and skunks, and quite a few deer, antelope and elk. All counted I would say about 30 head of big game. I shoot revolvers very well, and on bigger target (deer size) I have not missed a shot yet. Of those I have killed about 1/2 were killed on the run.
The gun you carry is only as good as the skill with which you use it. Most of my autos have good sized mags. But when I fire I think of every round as if it';s the only one I'll get.
Maybe revolver shooters are a bit old-fashioned and maybe being old means many can shoot well because of a lot of years in doing it.
Just something to consider. Not a premise based on a mountain of documented info, but speaking only for myself, I do not feel a bit under-armed when I am carrying my revolver.
I carry them a lot. More times I am carrying an auto, but if I were to guess, I'd say about 40% of the time I have a revolver. It's not uncommon for me to kill running animals with my revolvers from jack rabbits, coyotes, foxes and skunks, and quite a few deer, antelope and elk. All counted I would say about 30 head of big game. I shoot revolvers very well, and on bigger target (deer size) I have not missed a shot yet. Of those I have killed about 1/2 were killed on the run.
The gun you carry is only as good as the skill with which you use it. Most of my autos have good sized mags. But when I fire I think of every round as if it';s the only one I'll get.
I was beginning to think "sensibility" was becoming something else we have lost. Nice to see some do understand. It is amazing how some look at you like you have a third eye when you bring up the aisle length at the market too. Its even funnier when you tell them across the front of the store, or back to front is nearly a 100, if not more.
And just when "isnt" someone shooting at you from 25 yards not a threat? You really do have to wonder where some people's heads are sometimes?
Truthfully, I think many dont really practice much beyond the basics a whole lot, and getting 3 good hits from the holster at 3 yards in 3 seconds while moving offline (you werent planning on standing still? Were you?), might be a challenge. Especially if theyve never done it before. And thats just what you're told you'll ever need, according to the statistics. 25 yards with what a lot of people seem to carry these days, probably does sound like an improbability, if not an impossibility.
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