mapsjanhere
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Lefaucheux Model 1854 Pinfire
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mapsjanhere,,,, 9 minutes,,,,,,,, 9 minutes,,,,, that's all that one lasted!!!
9 Lefaucheux M 1858 double action 12mm Pin fire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefaucheux_M1858
The Lefaucheux M1858 was a French military revolver, chambered for the 12 mm pinfire cartridge, based on a design by Casimir Lefaucheux. It was the first metallic-cartridge revolver adopted by a national government.[1] It was first fielded in 1858 by the French Navy, and though never issued by the French Army, it was used in limited numbers by the French Cavalry during their 1862 deployment to Mexico.[2] Models were also purchased by Spain, Sweden, Italy, Russia, and Norway. Along with those countries, both the U.S. Confederate and Federal forces also used them in the American Civil War.
The revolver was a six-shot open-framed design, which was loaded via a hinged gate on the right side of the frame, through which empty cartridges were also ejected via an ejector rod running along the barrel.
The American Civil War[edit]
During the American Civil War both sides fielded a wide variety of revolvers, including the M1858. The Federal forces purchased over 12,000 M1858 revolvers, primarily supplying them to cavalry forces in 1862. However, these pinfire revolvers were replaced in service later in the war as more Colt and Remington revolvers became available.[3] Among American troops, the pistol was often referred to as the "French" Tranter".[4]
9 Lefaucheux M 1858 double action 12mm Pin fire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefaucheux_M1858
The Lefaucheux M1858 was a French military revolver, chambered for the 12 mm pinfire cartridge, based on a design by Casimir Lefaucheux. It was the first metallic-cartridge revolver adopted by a national government.[1] It was first fielded in 1858 by the French Navy, and though never issued by the French Army, it was used in limited numbers by the French Cavalry during their 1862 deployment to Mexico.[2] Models were also purchased by Spain, Sweden, Italy, Russia, and Norway. Along with those countries, both the U.S. Confederate and Federal forces also used them in the American Civil War.
The revolver was a six-shot open-framed design, which was loaded via a hinged gate on the right side of the frame, through which empty cartridges were also ejected via an ejector rod running along the barrel.
The American Civil War[edit]
During the American Civil War both sides fielded a wide variety of revolvers, including the M1858. The Federal forces purchased over 12,000 M1858 revolvers, primarily supplying them to cavalry forces in 1862. However, these pinfire revolvers were replaced in service later in the war as more Colt and Remington revolvers became available.[3] Among American troops, the pistol was often referred to as the "French" Tranter".[4]
If this one doesn't Last longer than 9 minutes I going to start showing photos of internal organs!
mapsjanhere Good one
11 Jacob Shaw Model 1857 Underhammer percussion revolver 36 cal C&B
http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/98754903361/shaw-underhammer-pistol-designed-by-jacob-shaw
There isn't a lot of information on the gun that I could copy so the above will give some data,
11 Jacob Shaw Model 1857 Underhammer percussion revolver 36 cal C&B
http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/98754903361/shaw-underhammer-pistol-designed-by-jacob-shaw
There isn't a lot of information on the gun that I could copy so the above will give some data,
Mike Irwin
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I think you have the Tranter part right, but not the cap and ball part right.
That's either a rimfire or a centerfire. It may have been converted from a cap and ball, but it no longer is. There are no capping points on the cylinder.
My best guess, given the time frame, is that it's chambered for either .320 revolver or .380 revolver, two very old centerfire cartridges that directly influenced the .32 and .38 Colt and S&W rounds.
That's either a rimfire or a centerfire. It may have been converted from a cap and ball, but it no longer is. There are no capping points on the cylinder.
My best guess, given the time frame, is that it's chambered for either .320 revolver or .380 revolver, two very old centerfire cartridges that directly influenced the .32 and .38 Colt and S&W rounds.
Mike Irwin
Staff
"Later Tranters were adapted to fire the .450 Adams cartridge."
As with just about any other firearms manufacturer, Tranter offered its guns in a wide variety of cartridges, not just .320, .380, and .450 (which was first chambered in the Model 1863 Tranter).
The list of Tranter-chambered cartridges includes the .380 and .442 rimfire rounds and the .320, .380, .450 Boxer, .500 Tranter, and .577 Tranter centerfire cartridges.
I've seen indications that small quantities of Tranter revolvers may have been chambered in .442 Webley, and some may have been later rechambered by their owners for the early .455 Webley black powder cartridges.
As with just about any other firearms manufacturer, Tranter offered its guns in a wide variety of cartridges, not just .320, .380, and .450 (which was first chambered in the Model 1863 Tranter).
The list of Tranter-chambered cartridges includes the .380 and .442 rimfire rounds and the .320, .380, .450 Boxer, .500 Tranter, and .577 Tranter centerfire cartridges.
I've seen indications that small quantities of Tranter revolvers may have been chambered in .442 Webley, and some may have been later rechambered by their owners for the early .455 Webley black powder cartridges.
mapsjanhere
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This is actually the very late model made by the Kynoch Gun Factory after they bought Tranter. Ozzie just blurred out the barrel markings 
GarandTd Good one
GarandTd Is actually correct,,,,, but in this case it has been modified to shoot cartridges, but sorry to say I cant really tell what caliber it was.
I cheated by not showing the right side of the gun where its easy to tell its been modified for cartridges.
I have also attached the 577 Tanter
15 Tranter revolver
The Tranter revolver was a double-action cap & ball revolver invented around 1856 by English firearms designer William Tranter (1816–1890). Originally operated with a special dual-trigger mechanism (one to rotate the cylinder and cock the gun, a second to fire it) later models employed a single-trigger mechanism much the same as that found in the contemporary Beaumont–Adams revolver.
Early Tranter revolvers were generally versions of the various Robert Adams-designed revolver models, of which Tranter had produced in excess of 8000 revolvers by 1853. The first model of his own design used the frame of an Adams-type revolver, with a modification in the mechanism which he had jointly developed with James Kerr. The first model was sold under the name Tranter-Adams-Kerr.[1]
Design/Operation[edit]
The Tranter revolver was a "solid-frame" design, very similar in appearance to the Beaumont–Adams revolver. Over the course of the 3 models Tranter developed, the only significant change was to the attachment of the ramrod- In the first model it was detachable, on the second model it was attached to the frame by a hook on the fixed barrel, and in the third model (1856) it was attached to the barrel by a screw.
On the double-trigger Tranter revolvers, a second trigger below the trigger guard served to cock the gun. The hammer on this model had no spur and therefore could not be cocked with the thumb. To fire the weapon in the single-action mode, one had to first press the lower trigger, which would pull the hammer back and rotate the cylinder; at this point one could fire the gun with a light pull on the upper trigger. To fire more rapidly, one could pull both triggers simultaneously, making it a double-action weapon.[2]
History[edit]
With the beginning of the American Civil War, the demands for foreign weapons in the Confederate States of America increased, as the Confederacy no longer had access to the weapons factories in the North and had almost no local small-arms manufacturing capability of their own. At the outbreak of the war, Tranter had a contract with the importing firm Hyde & Goodrich in New Orleans to import and distribute his revolvers commercially. Following the outbreak of the Civil War, Hyde and Goodrich dissolved their partnership, and its successors, Thomas, Griswold & Company, and A. B. Griswold & Company, continued to distribute Tranter's guns.[3]
As a reliable, functional, and proven design, Tranter revolvers soon enjoyed a great popularity among the Confederate military. The Tranter was originally produced in six calibres, with .36, .44, and .50 being the most popular, with Tranter developed an Army model (.44 calibre) and a Navy model (.36 calibre) for the American market.[3]
After the American Civil War, production continued of the Tranter percussion revolver (despite the increasingly availability of cartridge-firing designs) because many people thought percussion firearms were safer and cheaper than the "new-fangled" cartridge-based designs of the time. In 1863, Tranter secured the patent for rimfire cartridges in England, and started production using the same frame as his existing models. As early as 1868, Tranter had also begun the manufacture of centrefire cartridge revolvers.[3]
By 1867, his company expanded its production with a new factory in Aston Cross (England) under the name "The Tranter Gun and Pistol Factory" and, in 1878, he received a contract from the British Army for the supply of revolvers for use in the Zulu War. This was the last official use of Tranter revolvers by the British military, and Tranter retired in 1885, with his patent rights -Between 1849 and 1888 Tranter secured 24 patents firearms design patents and 19 cartridge patents- as well as the Tranter factory later being acquired by munitions manufacturer George Kynoch.[4]
GarandTd Is actually correct,,,,, but in this case it has been modified to shoot cartridges, but sorry to say I cant really tell what caliber it was.
I cheated by not showing the right side of the gun where its easy to tell its been modified for cartridges.
I have also attached the 577 Tanter
15 Tranter revolver
The Tranter revolver was a double-action cap & ball revolver invented around 1856 by English firearms designer William Tranter (1816–1890). Originally operated with a special dual-trigger mechanism (one to rotate the cylinder and cock the gun, a second to fire it) later models employed a single-trigger mechanism much the same as that found in the contemporary Beaumont–Adams revolver.
Early Tranter revolvers were generally versions of the various Robert Adams-designed revolver models, of which Tranter had produced in excess of 8000 revolvers by 1853. The first model of his own design used the frame of an Adams-type revolver, with a modification in the mechanism which he had jointly developed with James Kerr. The first model was sold under the name Tranter-Adams-Kerr.[1]
Design/Operation[edit]
The Tranter revolver was a "solid-frame" design, very similar in appearance to the Beaumont–Adams revolver. Over the course of the 3 models Tranter developed, the only significant change was to the attachment of the ramrod- In the first model it was detachable, on the second model it was attached to the frame by a hook on the fixed barrel, and in the third model (1856) it was attached to the barrel by a screw.
On the double-trigger Tranter revolvers, a second trigger below the trigger guard served to cock the gun. The hammer on this model had no spur and therefore could not be cocked with the thumb. To fire the weapon in the single-action mode, one had to first press the lower trigger, which would pull the hammer back and rotate the cylinder; at this point one could fire the gun with a light pull on the upper trigger. To fire more rapidly, one could pull both triggers simultaneously, making it a double-action weapon.[2]
History[edit]
With the beginning of the American Civil War, the demands for foreign weapons in the Confederate States of America increased, as the Confederacy no longer had access to the weapons factories in the North and had almost no local small-arms manufacturing capability of their own. At the outbreak of the war, Tranter had a contract with the importing firm Hyde & Goodrich in New Orleans to import and distribute his revolvers commercially. Following the outbreak of the Civil War, Hyde and Goodrich dissolved their partnership, and its successors, Thomas, Griswold & Company, and A. B. Griswold & Company, continued to distribute Tranter's guns.[3]
As a reliable, functional, and proven design, Tranter revolvers soon enjoyed a great popularity among the Confederate military. The Tranter was originally produced in six calibres, with .36, .44, and .50 being the most popular, with Tranter developed an Army model (.44 calibre) and a Navy model (.36 calibre) for the American market.[3]
After the American Civil War, production continued of the Tranter percussion revolver (despite the increasingly availability of cartridge-firing designs) because many people thought percussion firearms were safer and cheaper than the "new-fangled" cartridge-based designs of the time. In 1863, Tranter secured the patent for rimfire cartridges in England, and started production using the same frame as his existing models. As early as 1868, Tranter had also begun the manufacture of centrefire cartridge revolvers.[3]
By 1867, his company expanded its production with a new factory in Aston Cross (England) under the name "The Tranter Gun and Pistol Factory" and, in 1878, he received a contract from the British Army for the supply of revolvers for use in the Zulu War. This was the last official use of Tranter revolvers by the British military, and Tranter retired in 1885, with his patent rights -Between 1849 and 1888 Tranter secured 24 patents firearms design patents and 19 cartridge patents- as well as the Tranter factory later being acquired by munitions manufacturer George Kynoch.[4]
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sgms Good one.
17 Triplett & Scott repeating carbine, lever action 60-50 cal, 7 round tube magazine
Triplett & Scott was an American repeater carbine invented by Louis Triplett and William Scott of Columbia, Kentucky. It was issued to Kentucky Home Guard troops who were assigned to protect the supply lines of the Union Army under General Sherman's command.
Rare Triplett and Scott Repeating Carbine: This unusual, repeating carbine was manufactured by Meriden Manufacturing Company, Meriden, Connecticut in 1864 and 1865; only about 5,000 were produced. The weapon fired a .50 cal. rimfire cartridge, and it had a seven-shot magazine tube housed in the buttstock.
17 Triplett & Scott repeating carbine, lever action 60-50 cal, 7 round tube magazine
Triplett & Scott was an American repeater carbine invented by Louis Triplett and William Scott of Columbia, Kentucky. It was issued to Kentucky Home Guard troops who were assigned to protect the supply lines of the Union Army under General Sherman's command.
Rare Triplett and Scott Repeating Carbine: This unusual, repeating carbine was manufactured by Meriden Manufacturing Company, Meriden, Connecticut in 1864 and 1865; only about 5,000 were produced. The weapon fired a .50 cal. rimfire cartridge, and it had a seven-shot magazine tube housed in the buttstock.
dakota.potts
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Enfield Snider breech loading rifle?