Walther PPQ kinda of surprised me

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banditgriot

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While at the shooting indoors at a nearby facility, I had an opportunity to do what happens frequently at this particular range, fire a pistol owned by someone else. This was a great opportunity, after hearing so many great thing about a given firearm to get a chance to try it out for myself. I lent my Glock 41 to the guy next to me and he in turn handed me his Walther PPQ. The trigger was great, as I had remembered from dry firing one at my LGS. However, the gun didn't seem to balance well in my hand. It seemed top heavy and though the recoil was minimal, reacquiring the target seemed to take longer than it should have. In a nutshell, the PPQ moved off my "must have" list and is now just a "pistol of interest." I can imagine more range time/familiarity with the pistol might warm me up to it, but I have learned over the years that if it takes warming up to it to like it, I won't own it for long. That said, great trigger and nicely put together, just not for me.
 
9mm or 40? i don't notice any more muzzle rise in the 9mm than any of my other tupperware guns. maybe you're just used to the exaggerated grip angle on the glock.
 
That is the great thing about the choices out there now...something for everyone.

I like my PPQs but am neutral on Glocks.
 
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I have various Glocks and only one PPQ, does that tell you anything? Glocks are great and the PPQ is just as great for me if you want my opinion? I had to have the trigger bars changed on the Glocks to 3.5# to match the accuracy that I get with the PPQ at 7 yds at paper target. I guess I trust the Glocks and maybe just a little less with the PPQ.
 
I guess I trust the Glocks and maybe just a little less with the PPQ.
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Why would you trust the PPQ any less? It's basically nothing more than a P99 with a different trigger group. The P99 has proven itself over more than 15 years to be a pistol that is every bit as reliable as the Glock design.

Actually the P99/PPQ design is probably more reliable, when you take into account all the issues with Gen3 .40SW and Gen4 9mm Glocks.
 
The P99 has proven itself over more than 15 years to be a pistol that is every bit as reliable as the Glock design.
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I totally agree, I prefer the P99 to either of the two mentioned. I still have my original generation P99 .40 and after many years of use, I've only had to replace the rear site detent spring because I once lost it during disassembly.
 
I have learned over the years that if it takes warming up to it to like it, I won't own it for long.
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Well said! I agree whole heartedly...

I am sure by reputation only ... my last Walther was a P99 ... the PPQ is a great gun, and I would love to try one and maybe own one, but until I do I do not know if I truly like it. Feel, is something a shooter likes in a gun that he trusts his or her life on! The urge or impulse to buy a new gun makes some models more attractive than they be in your real world. I don't think you insulted anyone who owns one, just stating how it felt to you...
 
loose_holster_dan, it was the 9mm chambered PPQ and that is why it surprised me. I have owned a number of handguns in the past 25 years: a few glocks, a few Sigs, a couple H&K's, a Steyr, Rugers, S&W's, a CZ, Kimber... I am not brand or platform loyal. I was expecting something more in line with the performance of the Steyr M series and while the trigger was there, my ability to steady the pistol in my strong hand just wasn't as easy. The grip may feel great in hand, but in my hands it "squirmed", for a lack of better term, under the light recoil and trigger manipulation. It is a great pistol, just not for me.
 
Feel, is something a shooter likes in a gun that he trusts his or her life on!
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How you "feel" about guns is how anti-gunners try to justify their actions. I prefer to stick to facts and rational thought. ;)

That said, joelumber said he "trusted" the PPQ less than a Glock. In fact, what he must mean to say is that he trusts himself less with the PPQ than the Glock, which I could understand.
 
How you "feel" about guns is how anti-gunners try to justify their actions. I prefer to stick to facts and rational thought.
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How about we step back a tad? You love the Walther P99 and a little less the PPQ. I get it. Just because someone doesn't isn't an excuse to compare them to an anti-gunner. How a firearm fits each person is undoubtedly a bit subjective.
 
Not that I'm trying to convince you to change your opinion, there is a reason so many different firearms are produced...


Did you notice which backstrap was on the PPQ? There are 3 of them available in the package. If the pistol seemed to squirm in your hand a larger backstrap may be helpful.
 
How a firearm fits each person is undoubtedly a bit subjective
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I agree 100%...

In court it is all about facts but, on the street or on the range high skill sets such as shooting, martial arts, or other muti-layer skills that require years of training go beyond facts, as facts are subjective to these feeling and feedback skills. There is no facts listing how it FEELS to control the trigger or keep the sights lined up while working the trigger, maintaining balance, focus, drop compensation, and gun stability ... This is all about feel and your sensory and muscle memory. None of this can be read and applied as one can do with most facts. Yes, it is a fact that a resistor burned open can cause a circuit to fail, replace the resistor and it works again but, your shots are all over the place, you can't keep a group to save your life, and you have problems controlling your gun during recoil ... FACT: JUST DO IT, stay still, control that trigger, shoot better groups and your problem is solved ... DOESN'T APPLY HERE:)

Anti-gunners don't understand the facts or relationship between mind and body required here, so they use only feelings without the wisdom and knowledge to comprehend the difference between the two.

It is all fun!!! ;)
 
How about we step back a tad? You love the Walther P99 and a little less the PPQ. I get it. Just because someone doesn't isn't an excuse to compare them to an anti-gunner. How a firearm fits each person is undoubtedly a bit subjective.
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It helps when you quote the little "winky smily face." This guy.> ;) There was a bit of tongue-in-cheek in that comment.

No need to get riled up. That said - I don't "trust" any mechanical device. Only my ability to operate them to the best of my (limited) capability.

You love the Walther P99 and a little less the PPQ.
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I don't "love" either. But I do appreciate their qualities, and I don't really prefer one over the other (they are practically the same gun). I believe the AS trigger of the P99 is a better and safer system for carry and HD, but I appreciate some features of the PPQ, such as the simplicity of its operation and its more flexible accessory rail.

I will say I don't care for the PPQM2 - it's definitely a step backwards.

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Just my opinon...i HATE the AS trigger. I very much perfer the PPQ trigger. The AS triggrt has a hitch in it that drove me crazy. I first had a PPS and very much wanted to love the P99; the PPQ brought me back to the walther family.

As a side note there is no reason that the PPQ trigger is any less safe than the P99.
 
As a side note there is no reason that the PPQ trigger is any less safe than the P99.
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The PPQ trigger is a light, short, single-action trigger with no manual safety (aside from the trigger dingus).

Yes, we all know it will not fire unless the trigger is pulled, but in a world in which Murphy resides, it is inherently less safe than a de-cocked longer, heavier, double-action trigger. There is no way around this.
 
Fishbed77 I am not sure about that... if you can not keep your finger off the bang switch what difference does a few pounds make? If yoy really believe in Murphy's law then you would believe that it can overcome a DA trigger pull.
 
Fishbed77 I am not sure about that... if you can not keep your finger off the bang switch what difference does a few pounds make? If yoy really believe in Murphy's law then you would believe that it can overcome a DA trigger pull.
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I suppose when you're actually in a life-or-death situation you can report back about that. It's all a matter of degrees. I prefer to stack the odds in my favor as much as possible. YMMV.
 
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