Very Disturbing Video -- Victim mentality

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Nobody likes bullies. It just seems prudent to make sure it is, in fact, a bully situation before putting yourself at extreme risk.

Once you pull your gun, you are risking jail time if you shoot someone, justified or not. The law isn't always fair. The BG could walk while you rot in jail. Also, as stated, the "student" may have deserved the beating. Looking like a thug doesn't make you one. The guy might have hit his sister or something like that. Then I'd want to help out with the beating...just a thought.

This isn't an easy situation to figure out.
 
the first guy who gets hit and pulled out of the place is likely a squealer. The big guy took him out and probably questioned him then came back with the beating directed at the other guy. Thats what made me think its some mob justice or something. Or even as crazy as a guy getting personal justice on a hacker. Regardless, all the comments about personal defense and preparedness and avoidance have been very good.
 
There's little the average person without a security detail can plan on doing in a situation like that hit. Too bad the initial attacked didn't charge just a bit further into the line of fire.
 
I find it very hard to believe that the video is legit.

1. It's supposed to be in Russia, but handguns and carrying are extremely difficult if not outright illegal for civillians there.

2. It's possibly in a school, but most school forbid the carrying of weapons on their premises.

These taken into account, I'd say that either this video is most likely an outright fake, or one bad person doing ill to another bad person.
 
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That's a joke right?

Most countries forbid murder of their citizens too...
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It appears in the video that the pistol was originally possessed by the guy taking the beating. He appears to have dropped the mag out of it only to have the big guy take it away and use it to kill him later. I wouldn't question the video's authenticity if the big guy had the gun to begin with, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
 
I saw a video not too long ago where the Russian TV Candid Camera crew put a man in a mail box on a street corner and when the guy kept pushing the marks letters back out of the mail box he was trying to mail and the mark looked into the mail box and saw it was occupied by this guy, the mark emptied a TT-33 into the mail box through the letter port killing the "prankster". Do not mess around in Russia they are tight strung. :eek:
 
I saw a video not too long ago where the Russian TV Candid Camera crew put a man in a mail box on a street corner and when the guy kept pushing the marks letters back out of the mail box he was trying to mail and the mark looked into the mail box and saw it was occupied by this guy, the mark emptied a TT-33 into the mail box through the letter port killing the "prankster".
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Sorry, that one is definitely a fake. The first giveaway is that while the set-up is "Russian Candid Camera" in whatever Russian city it is supposed to be, the scene is not in Russia. That caught the eye of some folks who tracked down the guys who set the scene up. All staged. In fact, it turns out to have been done as a commercial for a print company in Argentina.
 
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That's ridiculous, and if I'm ever anywhere when something like that happens and I don't think I can handle the guy physically, I'm drawing, giving one warning and if he chooses madness over reason: BOOM! That really pisses me off. I grew up in a crummy part of Orlando where bullies ran amok and I teach my kids not to bully or endure them.
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What did you teach your kids to do to handle this kind of "bully"?
 
What did you teach your kids to do to handle this kind of "bully"?
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Are you asking because you genuinely want to know or out of a desire to discredit another poster?

The most important lesson I have tried to impart on them is not to bully. The other lesson I have tried to impart on them is not to stand idly by while a smaller weaker child is bullied, robbed, beaten or intimidated. I was in this case referring to a mind set, not fighting techniques. Note that no one in the cafe attempts to help either the first kid or the second kid as they get assaulted. Bullies are brave when not confronted. If you sit there with your thumb in your fourth point of contact, it only emboldens them as they dish out a beating. No one bothered even speaking out against it. Do you think that guy could have simultaneously beaten up everyone in the room? I don't. I would have done something in that situation even if I was unarmed. Maybe I would have died as well, but I wouldn't have to live on with the grief of knowing someone lost their life while I did nothing because I was afraid to act. My influence on my son's lives should be such that they would make the same choice in that situation. Perhaps you will teach yours differently.

If you truly desire to know what techniques for handling themselves I have taught my sons I will freely give you the information in private, but I don't feel it is the business of everyone on TFI, Creature.
 
What did you teach your kids to do to handle this kind of "bully"?
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My dad had a firm rule. He said that if we started a fight he'd beat our butt's. He said if we ran from a fight he'd beat our butt's three days in a row. Guess what, my little brother ran from a fight and sure enough dad beat his butt three days in a row, right after dinner. Dad never said you had to win the fight, but you darn well better make a showing. He told us, "If he wins, make darn sure he doesn't walk away smiling."

That didn't just go for when you got hit, it went for when someone else got unfairly jumped. Or when a girl would be hurt. One day when I was in the 10th grade a freind of mine, a girl that was rather well endowed, was walking down the hall at school. She was wearing one of those strechy tops that was popular at the time. A guy walked by her and pulled it down exposing her breasts. When he turned back to walk down the hall my fist's found their way to his face. I broke his nose and fractured his orbital socket. The cops and my dad were called along with the kids dad. The cops asked the kids dad if he wanted me charged, to which the man said ,"yes". Then the cop said that, of course, his son would have to be charged with a sexual assault. The guy changed his mind.
Sometimes doing the honorable thing has risks.
 
When he turned back to walk down the hall my fist's found their way to his face. I broke his nose and fractured his orbital socket.
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I'm not real sure that breaking someone's nose and orbital for bad manners would qualify as doing the honorable thing.
 
Since when did sexual assault become bad manners? If someone did likewise to your daughter/sister/mother/wife what would you do?
 
I would speak to the person, demand an apology, perhaps even contact the police. But to commit a felonious assault on a high school kid for that kind of nonsense, as I said, really doesn't seem to be "honorable."
 
I'd do it again, in the same situation, for the same reasons.

My sense of honor and action comes from my dad. My aunt says he changed in the Army. Dad was in the Eighth Army Ranger Company during Korea and apparently fought on Hill's 222 and 205, which was a meat grinder. Dad doesn't talk about it, all I know came from Mom and my Aunts.
 
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