threat is down... 911 is called...what to say/not say

Jofaba, you can place an attorney on retainer. Fees will vary. Simply talk to a few "reputable" ones, wade through their BS, and choose the best of the worst--kinda like voting.:rolleyes:
 
Yes, same question here....BG breaks in and you defend yourself...how to get lawyer at say 3-4am? What to do if you can't get one and you get taken into the station?
 
how to get lawyer at say 3-4am?
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You can use the Public Defender temporarily. You don't have to keep him. Use your one phone call to call someone who will get a lawyer to you ASAP. If you're charged, you may have to spend the night in jail until bail is set.
 
Good point Troy, They gonna need a bone wagon anyway so may as well come across as a caring feller no matter what...
Brent
 
I don't touch anything. I re-secure/close door and make sure no other threats are present (and let's say there are no other threats). Then I lay firearm on dining table and call 911.
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I don't lay my firearm anywhere until I see flashing lights coming down the street. Certainly not while I'm calling 911. You can assume Bubba was alone, but, as Clint Smith says, Wolves travel in packs.

Some legal authorities have changed their opinions about doing a perfect imitation of a guilty person by immediately lawyering up while Bubba lay on the sidewalk in a pool of blood, making a great immitation of a victim.

A BRIEF account of what happened before you zip it up can work to your benefit.

I highly recommend the tapes put out by the Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network, LLC.

Especially the one: "Handling the Immediate Aftermath of a Self-Defense Shooting" by Mas Ayoob and Marty Hayes.

When you join, as I did, you get all the tapes anyway. Ayoob, Hayes, Tueller, Farnum and others make this new org. worth taking a look at.

http://armedcitizensnetwork.org/
 
Nnobby, not all of us are blessed enuff to afford a 10 dollar DVD at El Marto del Wal let alone a membership to a top notch SD/HD .org like you mention although I do see the value...
Brent
 
Nnobby, not all of us are blessed enuff to afford a 10 dollar DVD at El Marto del Wal let alone a membership to a top notch SD/HD .org like you mention although I do see the value...
Brent
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I suppose that's true, but even fewer can afford to lose our life savings defending ourselves in a matter where we had no choice.

Don't remember for sure, I think I paid $90 for a membership plus tapes. That's less than I shoot up in ammo in a month.

Great site even if you don't join.
 
Nnobby, not all of us are blessed enuff to afford a 10 dollar DVD at El Marto del Wal let alone a membership to a top notch SD/HD .org like you mention although I do see the value...
Brent
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But you can afford a gun an ammunition?? Sounds like somebody who owns a HiPoint!
 
I ain't shot 90 bucks of ammo in the last several years put together:o... sux to be po' folk where every centerfire round has to put meat in the freezer and 25% of the .22LR is to feed dogs and snake...:o
Brent
 
What to tell 911?

This is what I would do in this particular scenario:
KEEP IT SIMPLE: Get straight to the point and no extra embellishments, etc.

Example: Call 911 and asked them to please send police to your home/apt asap. That intruder has broke in your home. Shots fired and the intruder is down. Please come as quickly as you can........YOU ARE SCARED!

Thats it, nothing more! No matter if they try and get you to say more (other than your address, which they should automatically have on their screen). As others have already mentioned, these 911 calls are recorded and anything else you say could be misconstrued and maybe used againist you. Put down your weapon as soon as you have "cleared" the house and secured doors, etc. Then just try and remain as calm as possible (hard to do I am sure) and wait for police. Then YOU tell the story.....

NOTE: This advice was given to me by a homicide detective friend of mine with our city police dept.
 
KE,

Go to http://www.teddytactical.com/archive/MonthlyStudy/2006/02_StudyDay.htm and study a bit. There's a glossary at the end of the thread at http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=396584 that might help with the article linked above.

Find yourself a good criminal defense attorney who knows case law in your jurisdiction. Most don't charge for a first consultation. Even if you have to buy an hour of time to get your basic questions answered though, it's worth it. And keep the attorney's business card handy afterward.

If you can manage it, LFI-1 is great training- http://www.ayoob.com/LFIschedule.html .

hth,

lpl
 
Can they legally use the 911 call to prosecute you , given the fact that you had not yet been read your rights ? I realize this is often movie mumbo jumbo and that reading of the rights is not a court dismissive technicality.... but I was just wondering.

I know they record it for information , but I'm with the guys who say tell the truth , don't over think it.

For me , I would think I would want to try and see if the person is still alive , check for pulse , administer CPR if possible etc... ( screwing with the crime scene though ) I would want an ambulance regardless of legalities.


And I would imagine , in 90% of the cases they will know that you are in a heightened sense of terror/fear/adrenaline.

Be honest , tell the truth , answer all questions from the 911 operator... She/he's not trying to " set you up" She/he is trying to protect her policemen and provide them with as much information as possible pruior to arriving on site.
 
I assume they can use the 911 call as you have not yet been "arrested" when the call was placed, thus you haven't come under the miranda rules yet. Also the call is public information...
But I am just guessing...
Brent
 
lol yes , I assumed it was only released on approved circumstances. Perhaps in cases where the trial was finished and could not skew jury selection process.

Is it something you can find locally .....

Can I search my local law enforcement records ? Or is it a special request only or what ?

My neighboring City had it's first murder in the past 10 years last year. ( at the grocery store I often shop and had planned to be at that very day )

I would like to hear the 911 calls at that store.
 
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