The Taurus Question

Do you trust Taurus to be your only handgun?

  • Yes

    Votes: 137 48.8%

  • No

    Votes: 144 51.2%
  • Total voters
    281
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I will do one better, I will gladly allow use of my gun to those who insist all Taurus are junk, so they can prove to me how it is junk. if they can show me the differences between a current S&W, and Ruger, in the same models they can have it.

I am definatley no Taurus fanboy, and I have had a bad experience with one(horrible, in fact) but to throw a Blanket statement out that they are all junk, is bunk. Unfortunately, all Taurus threads, no matter how intended, end up a burning wreck of disaster, full of hate and rhetoric.

Simply said with Taurus: "Buyer Beware"
 
You can get good and bad guns from all makers. I have a PT145 that I use as my winter carry gun. It is almost a year old and has never not gone bang when you pull the trigger. It has around 1200 rounds through it so it gets a work out from time to time. I trust my life and my family's life to often. I have a Ruger that has been back to the company 3 times, still has FTE with all kinds of ammo. I like that not a lot of people like Taurus and Rossi, means that I can pick up a couple more cheap.
 
It has nothing do with whether the question is well written or poorly constructed. It is nevertheless a simple question: do you trust taurus to be your only handgun? What part of it dont you understand or disagree with? PM me and I can argue with you on that.

Back to topic....
Glad to see that people are voting one way or other. Seems like a close one.
However +1 ACE
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it has everything to do with the question. you should realize this, seeing as it's you who started the thread and asked the question.

thanks to your awful question, some people who hate taurus have openly voted "yes" because it's better than calling the BG a bad name, while others who love taurus have openly voted "no" because there are other firearms they like better for whatever reason.

all in all, your poor question has rendered your poll completely meaningless.
if your goal was truly to reach a conclusive result, then you have failed

if you were trying to find out if people find taurus to be reliable or if they like them, then simply ask that question. but your hypothetical half-question is completely meaningless and in need of either much more clarification, or easy simplification to get to the point.
 
If you want to bash Taurus and think no other guns break down, go to the Smith & Wesson Forum and read about the guy who doubts his 642 because of a broken firing pin.
 
If you really want to distill it down to its essence, you need two questions:
  1. Does Taurus suck? Y/N
  2. Do you (or have you in the past) own one? Y/N
That gives 4 possible combinations, assuming people answer both. Each combo tells you something. Hope this helps :)
 
I don't think I ever said "all Taurus are junk." But when every Taurus you've ever owned broke and had to be sent back it kinda spoils it for you. The PT92 is a decent weapon. After owning and having problems with the others, I wouldn't buy one. Why, they all come off the same line my friends.

It's about percentages of broken handguns and failures. Unless Taurus released numbers we will never know what they are. So we are all here to speculate. I would imagine it's a 50/50 wether you get a decent one or not. If you get a good one, it may shoot fine for a while and serve you perfectly well. I can see how you might defend it. On the other hand I have never had a Sig or Hk fail ever, in any way, shape, or form. What does that tell me? Maybe they have a failure rate in the 10% range or less. Glocks are probably about the same. I've been shooting for a long time and know competitive shooters, armorers, and gun shop owners. They laugh at the company and quality. That's all there is to it. Argue that point all you want. The QC and product is not well regarded. Do other companies have junk guns, absolutely. I don't comment on many of those because I've never purchased them. I love the post where the guy brags about his Taurus on this forum until his frame cracked. Now he won't own one. Let's hope that does not happen when it's needed. Good luck all.
 
Ace, I can agree on most of what you said. Minor exception about the shop owners. I do know some that carry Taurus even though they have about any make and model of others to carry. But, they are not the majority for sure.

This Taurus stuff is beat to death, but the point I would make is that the cost issue is over rated. Low cost is not the driving factor for many Taurus owners. It was not in my case. I own and can purchase more expensive guns. Most of mine are Colt, S&W, Ruger, SA....more than one of each. Poor reliability and low cost are not necessarily tied together. Many examples of exceptions in the consumer world. I carried a grease gun in the Army. It was the replacement for the expensive Thompson. The grease gun was stamped metal frame with only the bolt & barrel being machined parts. It was very reliable, but only cost about $45 per copy rather than the $250 plus for the Thompson. GI's did make fun of the grease gun (ugly), but no one ever accused it of not working.

So, I agree with Taurus having QC problems. But I don't agree this is an automatic consequence of low cost.

I don't comment on many of those because I've never purchased them.
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Great point. I try to do the same. Many bash various guns when they themselves have had no first hand experience with these particular guns.
 
Madmag-I can agree with that. Not all shop owners are negative towards Taurus, but most that I know are. Honestly, the ones I know don't even consider them an option for carry. I did the same thing as many on this forum. Despite the warnings I bought that cool looking little 3rd gen. PT145. I loved everything about the little gun until parts started falling off on my first trip to the range, totally incapacitating the gun. Even if it hadn't fallen apart the darn thing was a jamm-o-matic. What a feeling! I was bummed. Never again my friend! Atleast not with them. Bought a CZ P-01 with the money and love it! Quality, dependability, all at a reasonable price.
 
Despite the warnings I bought that cool looking little 3rd gen. PT145.
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I spent the day on the range with two of the 1st gen. PT145's when they first came out. They worked OK, but had hands down the worst trigger I have ever experienced. I know from dry firing that the new triggers are better, but that won't help if parts fall off. Anyway, my trigger on my PT945 is good...at least in single action mode, and the parts seem to stay in place. But the PT945 is very similar to the PT92, which seems to be one of their better models.
 
Yes. It's because they have not failed me after thousands of rounds via a PT92, PT-25 and now 500+ through my new 24/7 OSS.

-Cheers
 
"The Judge"

Personally, I am not a huge fan of Taurus although I just received a couple of "The Judge" which is the .45LC/410 Ga- It really seems like a quality gun- I have not fired it yet although I think they actually did a nice job on this one!
 
My final comment (I think;)).

On a positive note. When I purchased my PT945 about 6 years ago I was looking for certain features on a pistol. The 945 was one of the few to fit the bill. I wanted a light weight commander size .45 with DA/SA firing pin block, de-cocker. I wanted thumb safety mounted on the frame. At the time Sig had the features, but I have yet to this day found a Sig that fits my hand. Nothing wrong with Sig..just my hands. You can carry the PT945 round in chamber with hammer down and locked or hammer cocked & locked. The 945 fits my hand and is barely more felt recoil than my full size 1911. Like I said before, when I carry my PT945 out where I only have that pistol available, I am saying by definition I trust it enough for SD.

That's my story and I am sticking to it.:cool:
 
I voted no because I have better options, but if my only option really was Taurus then I would say yes to my M605.

Fine gun, snub nose, five shots of .357mag, and it works every time.

Now ask me how I feel about their semi autos.

The answer changes completely because one of their semis was so picky about ammo that I got rid of it and made sure to tell the gunshop to inform any future owner that it was very ammo picky. It only worked reliably with premium ammo.

I couldn't afford to practice with it and therefore it had to go.

Taurus has some fine products. Some are finer than others. It is almost as though they have two departments. Good and reliable vs. just plain worthless.

It just depends on which department it went through before it got shipped out of the factory.
 
I have shot over 1000 rnd each thru my Taurus PT111 MilPro and PT140 MilPro with ZERO malfunctions! No FTF's or FTE's or failure to fire! So far both guns have been reliable. My EDC gun is a Glock 27 and I have carried either the PT111 or PT140 from time to time.
 
It is almost as though they have two departments. Good and reliable vs. just plain worthless.
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I think that gets to the heart of the matter. I worked in industry quality control, and you can have that situation. Without strict overall QC then you sometimes have departments that have different levels of QC. Maybe on one model those managers push for good QC, while at another department they are not strict. This lack of consistent QC is the fault of the upper (Taurus) management....period. Low cost can work. When Ruger made his .22 Auto for $37.50 (I bought one for that price) he proved that quality and low cost can go together.
 
I said, NO on Taurus. But to be fair, I have two beautiful Smith and Wesson 629 revolvers that I bought new and had to send back twice for serious malfunctions. Because of that, I would NEVER choose either of these Smiths as my one and only gun. (I'd pick my Redhawk, maybe.)

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I've had good results with revolvers and ok results with pistols. I carry a Taurus M85UL in 38spcl. My woods gun is an M66 357mag.

I owned and sold a S&W 629. The Taurus is a much better shooting gun for me. The S&W trigger never seemed good to me. Picked up the Taurus, used, on a whim and was wowed by it at the plate range.
 
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