cloverleaf762
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On that I'll be standing next to you.
Let the appeal run its course and then we can all speak in an educated fashion
So on your argument, once a trial concludes, there can be no public debate about the quality of the decision, or it's implications for the general public, and we must all crawl away and assume the Court/Jury was always right?
Do you care to explain how this has any relevance to his current case? If I'm convicted of not paying child support, does that automatically mean if I'm accused of murder I'm by default guilty?Mr. Dobbs needs to do a little more research. Olofson has a number of convictions including one for carrying a concealed firearm in WI. He's been a defendent on the losing end 18 out of 19 times since 1994.
That's why they have transcripts and they're public record.Public debate is one thing. Stating that the jury didn't get it right simply because it is a gun issue or coming to conclusions without knowledge of what the jury heard, or who this guy is not public debate. Its just kneejerk rantings.
So on your argument, once a trial concludes, there can be no public debate about the quality of the decision, or it's implications for the general public, and we must all crawl away and assume the Court/Jury was always right?
Do you care to explain how this has any relevance to his current case? If I'm convicted of not paying child support, does that automatically mean if I'm accused of murder I'm by default guilty?
His rifle malfunctioned. Expert witnesses testified to that. The government presented absolutely no evidence that he tampered with the rifle or knowingly transferred a machinegun. The ATF tests originally concluded the rifle wasn't a machinegun. After a supervisor ordered a retest and instructed the tester to use soft primed ammo, they eventually got it to malfunction (and that's exactly what it was). But because he didn't pay his bills and got pinched for a concealed weapons charge, all of a sudden the facts of the case are irrelevant?
As for the charge of carrying concealed in WI, that's like carrying a Bible in the USSR--hardly what I'd call a crime but technically there is some meaningless scribble on paper somewhere outlawing it.
So he's automatically guilty of manufacturing a machinegun and transferring said machinegun.I don't agree with it either another reason I won't live in WI. Meaningless or not according to their state law it's a crime. He has a proven track record of not doing what is "right" according to the laws he has chosen to be governed by.
So you do believe that if you commit one crime you're automatically guilty of another. Please, do everything in your power stay off of a jury.
I certainly have never held this guy up as any saint. I could care less about his inability to pay his bills or that he's been pinched for carrying a concealed weapon. To me it's all irrelevant, as it should be. I'm more concerned with the ATF being over zealous in interpreting the laws that can have a VERY real affect on you and me. I've been around guns for over 20 years and I've seen rifles on the line double up, and I've seen handguns double. Do you think these people should be convicted of a crime and lose their rights? That's what's at issue here, not tax bills and unpaid credit cards.
You "think" he got sloppy with the rules. So by that, do you mean he purposely altered his rifle? You think he purposely manufactured an illegal machinegun then knowingly transferred it to someone else? Can you cite evidence of this, or do you just "think" he's guilty because he didn't pay his bills?
That's why they have transcripts and they're public record.
So he's automatically guilty of manufacturing a machinegun and transferring said machinegun.
Got it.
We might as well just charge him with an unsolved murder too. I mean, he didn't pay his taxes and he carried a concealed weapon. He must be guilty.
Do you know if this was allowed as evidence in his trial?While we don't convict people based on what they have done in the past, its ridiculous to say that it shouldn't be taken into account.