The down fall of the AR

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magpul are the best if they have the caliber you need but for me, i also have a ar in a 7.62x39 and that case either Bushmaster mag or ASC Mags are the best. I wish magpul would make a mag for this caliber
 
The only time I have had a .223 rifle jam I was shooting factory mags with factory ammo. It happened twice in one day with two different mags. The rifle was a Ruger Mini-14 Tactical....traded it for a S&W M&P15 and have never looked back. Calling it a "Mini" must give certain people an inferiority complex.........
 
Magog talks about Mini mags in 3.... 2....... 1......
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Hahahaha

But yeah, seriously, Magpul Pmags.

I've had two jams in my AR on the same range trip. Was an older CProducts magazine. I use Pmags and some AR-Stoners (MidwayUSA's rebranded CPro mags) and haven't had any such issue since then.
 
my immiediate network of gun enthuisiasts has brought about a dozen AR15s of varying calibers and price ranges. all of the 5.56 have been 100% and we all use USGI surplus mags. the only ones that had issues with mags were my 9mm and my brothers 7.62x39...neither of these chambers are very common and require such extensive modification that they can barely be considered ARs anymore. for my brother all he had to do was replace the mag springs...I had to buy expensive colt mags...neither of these would ever be used for self defense purposes no less combat action nor would we ever bring these to a situation that has a zero fault tolerance level.
 
I have never had a problem with any of my AR's that was not induced by the nut behind the trigger. I use good Mags and probably shoot more than most. I know I get tired of reloading for Hi Power matches.

So what dies a guy expect when he buys the cheapest AR, mags and ammo he can find?
 
I don't like plastic mags. I do love MagPul but I like steel and aluminum. I buy only C Products and have never had an issue. That said, C Products got bought out and the company that owns them has bumped the price by 50+%. I've got about 20 so I'm set for now....
 
The Pmags are impressive tech. Yes, they are high impact plastic, but that gives advantages metal mags cannot. The Pmags bend and deform when a lot of pressure is placed on them. They then bounce back. Metal mags won't do that, and if they are damaged or pressed on, they will be bent and they either have to be dismantled and reshaped, or thrown away.

That said, I've been leaning back towards metal mags myself. Just out of simplicity's sake. I don't plan to get rid of my current Pmag stock, though. And if I can no longer find teflon coated mags for a decent price, I'll always have Pari- Magpul.
 
You guys are way over paying for your AR mags, I get them from CDNN for $3.00, $4.00 and $5.00 on sale. Yes they are plastic, but they are lighter and work without problems. Why you want to lug around extra weight in metal mags (pmags excluded, but what I consider expensive) I do not understand.

Jim
 
On another specific forum which I frequented for many years, members could basically appeal to the staff to "remove" a meddlesome or just blatantly obnoxious member. From what I've seen of magog, he knows nothing of the rifle which he so vehemently lauds (mini) and he knows even less of it's apparent counterpart (AR platform). The only information he has to share comes not from personal experience but is merely gleaned from youtube videos. He never speaks of anything based in hands-on doing; only claims how amazing his mini is because some guy by the handle nutnfancy tells him so. I don't see this term used around this forum so I choose my words carefully saying this given the rules of this forum: The guy is a troll. So let's stop feeding the troll and hope he moves underneath somebody else's bridge.
 
First off, is this another "Mini-14 is better than AR" bait post?

That said, I've never had any mag-related issues (or any other jamming issues) with my AR, but the concensus is that Magpul PMAGs are excellent and inexpensive magazines.
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Not at all. Cheap after market magazines are I think the MINI only down fall as well.

They say Tapco Gen II are good, but cant find them for sale.


So I buy the Ruger factory magazines best to keep my system 100% reliable.


I cant get 20 rounders for 25 bucks. I was just wonder how much the AR mags are.
 
I use two magazine types in my AR, both without issues. Magpul P-mags and C-products blackened stainless. Both appear to work extremely well. Everyone swears by P-Mags and they do seem to work reliably, I've just found C-products to be just as reliable and a heck of a lot less expensive.
 
Magpul's PMAGs for no questions asked reliability.

Others probably work too. I really wish Magpul would make a 5 round hunting mag.
 
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I give away anything other than wilson 1911 mags if I get them in trade etc.
Not worth the ammo to find out if they are ok or not even as range beaters.


That being said I am and continue to be amazed at how well the various ar platform guns I mess with run on a motley assortment of old beater mags.

Tried aftermarket mini 14 and 30 mags in those guns. Not a pretty picture.
 
I have to wonder though if it's the no-tilt follower design with the Pmags that makes them so reliable. I'm new to AR's, but just poking around at a gun show I noticed all the aluminum mags, even with the green followers, would tilt and felt fairly gritty.

2500 through my Sport and Pmags with no issues.
 
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