The thread has wandered from the original theme. Nonetheless, it is still related, as "Castle Doctrine" is intertwined with the "No Duty to Retreat" laws.
We seem to be focusing more on the latter than the former, so...
Tom Servo said:
No, no, no...you're still getting it all wrong!
Not at all, Tom. First, didn't you notice the sarcasm tags? Secondly, since this was my
first post in this thread, I hardly think I can
"still" get anything, right or wrong.
But bare with me, a moment. I will explain more fully.
TG said:
Calling 911 and giving police the description and movements of BGs breaking into your neighbor's house is fulfilling a civic duty.
A civic duty. Singular. There are others.
As you implied, it is the citizens duty to stop the crime. Whether or not the Bad Guy is arrested (captured?) is not the imperative, here.
We have some, here, who cry the meme,
"When seconds count, the police are minutes away," in order to emphasize the point of owning defensive firearms.
We have others who have shown in scenario after scenario, that firearms are not the be-all and end-all of defensive posturing. This is a good reminder, as there are other tactics and tricks that should be in our bags of self-defense.
Combining the two are necessary for well rounded personal defense. That should be a given. But here, we began talking about what happens outside the domicile, and some of you would rather not take any risks. You espouse the idea of retreating to the supposed safety of your house and calling the police... Let them handle it. Afterall, isn't that what we pay them for?
In doing this, we have just shirked our duty and responsibility to our society. We have given the criminal all he needs to complete his current activity and empowered him to commit more crime. Afterall, we didn't do anything to curtail his activity, did we?
Oh.... we called the police. :barf:
Civic Duty requires that you take a risk and get involved. How you do that is up to you, but perhaps refreshing your history of the Father of Civic Responsibility might help:
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus. I don't know what they teach today, but Cincinnatus was the role model my civics teacher used.
A modern example can be found in my posts,
here (see posts #32 and #33 of that thread). So, I have drawn my line in the sand, and defended that line.
To the scumbags of the world, I say:
You. Will. Not. Cross!