TED NUGENT, a good spokesman for us?
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Baba Louie
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Thank goodness Sweaty Ted is getting more mellow with age, eh? 
He hunts, he fishes, he shoots, he rocks, he carries a badge (albeit symbolically), he espouses extremist rhetoric that scares some in power while wooing voters to those who agree with him...
Tom Selleck he ain't.
For those who lurk and don't know about Mr. Nugent...
http://tednugent.com/index.shtml
He hunts, he fishes, he shoots, he rocks, he carries a badge (albeit symbolically), he espouses extremist rhetoric that scares some in power while wooing voters to those who agree with him...
Tom Selleck he ain't.
For those who lurk and don't know about Mr. Nugent...
http://tednugent.com/index.shtml
You'll have to explain that one
I can only assume that since I only posted once on the thread you are referring to my mention of the crack dealing family being Mexican with a 14 year old son.
If you actually read the entire thread, instead of the part that fits your agenda, you will see that the fact that they were Mexican with a 14 year old son was pertinent.
The family next door to the crack house was also Mexican and had a 15 year old son.
Based on this when the BGs came to shoot someone they chose the wrong house.
If the crack family had been white or if every body on the block had been Mexican the mistake might not have happened
Merely mentioning race is not a statement of racism
Not true at all. Even if there are 60 million gun owners, which I seriously doubt, it amount to less than 25%f of the populace. Which means that more than 75% must be non-gun owners and you can bet your sweet bippie the over welming majority of them would preferr that no one had a gun.
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I was ND State Director of Ted Nugent United Sportsmen Of America for 10 years, and got to know him pretty well. As I type this, I'm looking at a photo of he and I taken backstage at a concert here in ND in the late 90's.
Ted is one of the most well read and intelligent folks I've ever met. His passion for the outdoors and hunting, particularly expressed in private, is something to behold. He's the real deal.
One of my most treasured memories of those days is about an hour spent alone with him backstage before a show, talking about was our sons and hunting. 72 hours before he was in Africa, and had bumped of an elephant. He was still pumped. As he told me about the hunt, it was almost like being there.
He's fully capable of moderating his presentation depending on the venue, but it seemed to me that as he got older, he had less patience for doing it. I mentioned this once or twice, but I can tell you here and now that nobody tells Ted what to do. He'll do it his way, and the devil take the hindmost.
I respect the hell out of him, and have no question of the sincerity of his message, but don't always agree with how he goes about delivering it...
Ted is one of the most well read and intelligent folks I've ever met. His passion for the outdoors and hunting, particularly expressed in private, is something to behold. He's the real deal.
One of my most treasured memories of those days is about an hour spent alone with him backstage before a show, talking about was our sons and hunting. 72 hours before he was in Africa, and had bumped of an elephant. He was still pumped. As he told me about the hunt, it was almost like being there.
He's fully capable of moderating his presentation depending on the venue, but it seemed to me that as he got older, he had less patience for doing it. I mentioned this once or twice, but I can tell you here and now that nobody tells Ted what to do. He'll do it his way, and the devil take the hindmost.
I respect the hell out of him, and have no question of the sincerity of his message, but don't always agree with how he goes about delivering it...
I believe the Nuge is exactly what we need. He's an 'in your face', 'tell it like it is', 'straight shooting', etc..... fellow. You might not always agree with what he says (I don't,) nor always like the way he says it (I don't,) but you will always know were you stand with him.
I used to listen to his morning radio show, which he broadcasted from his place in Jackson, MI. It was listening to him talk about the "Mystical flight of the arrow" that inspired me to become proficient with the bow. Soon after, I took my first Whitetail deer ever, with an arrow. I miss that show. It was an eclectic mix of hunting, shooting, politics, and rock.
Ted recently announced on "The Big Idea" with Donny Deutsch that he was seriously considering a run for governor of Michigan in 2010. I hope he does it. If so, I intend to be a volunteer on his campaign.
I used to listen to his morning radio show, which he broadcasted from his place in Jackson, MI. It was listening to him talk about the "Mystical flight of the arrow" that inspired me to become proficient with the bow. Soon after, I took my first Whitetail deer ever, with an arrow. I miss that show. It was an eclectic mix of hunting, shooting, politics, and rock.
Ted recently announced on "The Big Idea" with Donny Deutsch that he was seriously considering a run for governor of Michigan in 2010. I hope he does it. If so, I intend to be a volunteer on his campaign.
Double Naught Spy
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Antipitas said,
So what you are saying is that you like what Nugent has to say and you don't care if he alienates the NRA from the rest of the US population? If he is the spokesperson for the NRA and speaks on behalf of its membership, then we all look like psychos. Wonderful.
NDTerminator's last line is well written.
Just imagine the amount of bad PR from non-NRA members that was generated by Heston's "From my cold dead hands!" proclamation as it will be a drop in the bucket compared to the damage Nugent will do and Heston's comment was really pretty subdued compared to Nugent.
So what you are saying is that you like what Nugent has to say and you don't care if he alienates the NRA from the rest of the US population? If he is the spokesperson for the NRA and speaks on behalf of its membership, then we all look like psychos. Wonderful.
NDTerminator's last line is well written.
Just imagine the amount of bad PR from non-NRA members that was generated by Heston's "From my cold dead hands!" proclamation as it will be a drop in the bucket compared to the damage Nugent will do and Heston's comment was really pretty subdued compared to Nugent.
Ted's a Mixed Bag-- But He's The Best We've Got
The Nuge is wonderful. I love him. I don't always agree with him, but I agree often enough. And you sure know where you stand with him.
High-profile, articulate, logical. Confrontational and divisive.
The latter comes with the former, at least in his case.
But we don't have anyone else out there with his stature.
I guess "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" comes to mind.
The Nuge is wonderful. I love him. I don't always agree with him, but I agree often enough. And you sure know where you stand with him.
High-profile, articulate, logical. Confrontational and divisive.
The latter comes with the former, at least in his case.
But we don't have anyone else out there with his stature.
I guess "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" comes to mind.
Sometimes he does get a little overzealous, but he's SPEAKING OUT. Which is more than I can say for most gun owners.... One thing to post your gripes on a forum....quite another to take the political or personal heat for actually voicing, or God forbid, STANDING UP for your beliefs. Like his style or not, he's doing what most people don't have the stones to do.
You think if "The Duke" were alive, he would be a good spokesman? He'd tell 'em all to go to hell too.
The problem is, people are so afraid of hurting someones 'feelings' that everyone watches what they say, or takes great care to be 'PC'.
To hell with that! People need to stop being such wussies. Get some backbone.
I could go on, but it wouldn't do any good. People with this wishy-washy mindset will never change.....gun owners or not.....
You think if "The Duke" were alive, he would be a good spokesman? He'd tell 'em all to go to hell too.
The problem is, people are so afraid of hurting someones 'feelings' that everyone watches what they say, or takes great care to be 'PC'.
To hell with that! People need to stop being such wussies. Get some backbone.
I could go on, but it wouldn't do any good. People with this wishy-washy mindset will never change.....gun owners or not.....
joab: Thanks for the clarification. The only mention of Ted's verbage, up to the point that you mentioned racism, had to do with his wanting to shoot all the bad guys. I'm not familiar with anything that he's said that would be racist, so had to assume that you were referring to his penchant for wanting bad guys dead. Since a majority of the bad guys are of miniorty ethnicity, one might reasonably assume that such a reference might be taken as racist.
You refer to "THE NUGE" as a "FOUL MOUTHED ZEALOT" who spouts borderline racist rhetoric. While being a zealot for our cause is a "positive" rather than a "negative" as you are inferring, you seem to take exception with my statement that we are all racist. Your comment QUOTE: If you say so. End quote, implies that you do not believe this.
Thank you for posting your comments about the neighboring "mexican" family.
You assume that your readers will ascertain certain physical and social characteristics from the term. Hence my statement that we are all racist.
QUOTE:The mexican family next door has a son who was 14 at the time. He was always jumping on his bike and riding off for about 15 or 20 after his cell phone would go off. The entire neighborhood knew what was going on but left it alone because they had never seen anything concrete. END QUOTE.
HOW DID THEY KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON?
BECAUSE HE WAS 14, OR MEXICAN, OR BOTH?
Those comments are "PREJUDICIAL" as well as racist, the former being a negative term, the latter often used as such, but wrongfully so.
Now go and read what I said on this subject in the "GUN CONTROL POLL" and in the "PROTECTING YOUR PROPERTY IN TEXAS" threads.
WHICH DEFINITION ARE YOU?
CALL NOT THE KETTLE BLACK, POT, LEST HE CALL, PHARISEE!
Thank you for posting your comments about the neighboring "mexican" family.
You assume that your readers will ascertain certain physical and social characteristics from the term. Hence my statement that we are all racist.
QUOTE:The mexican family next door has a son who was 14 at the time. He was always jumping on his bike and riding off for about 15 or 20 after his cell phone would go off. The entire neighborhood knew what was going on but left it alone because they had never seen anything concrete. END QUOTE.
HOW DID THEY KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON?
BECAUSE HE WAS 14, OR MEXICAN, OR BOTH?
Those comments are "PREJUDICIAL" as well as racist, the former being a negative term, the latter often used as such, but wrongfully so.
Now go and read what I said on this subject in the "GUN CONTROL POLL" and in the "PROTECTING YOUR PROPERTY IN TEXAS" threads.
WHICH DEFINITION ARE YOU?
CALL NOT THE KETTLE BLACK, POT, LEST HE CALL, PHARISEE!
So what you are saying is that we need to be polite, discreet, holding our tongues, so as to not scare the women and children? In short, we should return to the NRA that brought us the NFA of '34; The GCA of '68 and the FOPA of '86... Wonderful! (I suspect you don't like words being put into your mouth any more than I do?)Double Naught Spy said:
I think too many people have forgotten that in order to make an omelet, you must first break the eggs.
What the hell does one have to do with the other, other than trying to make an off topic hi-jack seem pertinent. As I said the appropriate place to take exception to a comment mad on another thread would be in that other thread. And zealots are seldom taken seriously except by the extremist of the group.
Actually I assume that they will ascertain that the family next door was Mexican with a 14 year old son. It's called foreshadowing
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How about because he was always jumping on his bike and riding off fro 15 or twenty minutes after receiving a call on his cell phone, always as in all hours of the night. And before you ask we have to be outside to use our cells here because there is no signal inside the houses for some reason.
Those comments about him being a 14 year old Mexican are foreshadowing the fact that the BGs shot up the wrong house because they were also Mexican and had a 15 year old son.
I see that you left that part of my statement out.
More of the same quote twisting ,digressive diversionary, lies by omissions that I have come to expect from the lesser gifted debaters on the forums
Call not the kettle black lest ye be told to take a reading comprehension class
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