Taurus quality

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Taurus is absolute garbage. With all the other choices out there, I wouldn't even consider buying one - not even if I was down to my last $300
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By all means, please advise us what we should be buying for $300. Are you speaking from first hand experience? Or are you just another guy that jumps on the latest pistol bashing bandwagon.
If it's the second, your contribution to this discussion is worthless.
 
By all means, please advise us what we should be buying for $300. Are you speaking from first hand experience? Or are you just another guy that jumps on the latest pistol bashing bandwagon.
If it's the second, your contribution to this discussion is worthless.
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If all you got is $300 I would suggest a used gun...
 
If all you got is $300 I would suggest a used gun...
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I agree, I'm sure you get my meaning. ;)

I don't like "drive by" tactics. I have no problem with anyone who has a beef with a particular firearm or company if it is first hand knowledge of there own or a friend\relative.
Not, "I read it on the interweb". :)

I have a Taurus pistol that was less than $400. It's been a good reliable gun. Do I think it's a Dan Wesson, of course not.
Do I trust the gun, u bet! It's been exactly what I hoped it would be. Reliable, easy to shoot and comfortable to carry.
 
I have a bunch of Taurus revolvers and (knock-on-wood) they have all been good. Triggers need to get worn in and finish is a little thin on the blued ones. Edges are definitely not as nice as a S&W or Colt, but at 70% the cost of a Smith, who cares. I just picked up a snub in .327 Fed Mag and let me tell you, the lock-up is as good as any Smith I've fired.

The semi autos are another story. QA a bit spotty. I've gotten a couple of lemons and no longer buy their semi autos. It would appear that the metal semis are much better than their polymer frames. The PT92 is still their flagship pistol. Their worst is probably the 24/7 line.
 
The PT92 is still their flagship pistol.
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I forgot until reading this comment that my very first pistol was a PT-92. Picked up as soon as I turned 21, wanting a Beretta but only having the cash to afford a Taurus. That pistol was flawless, and I'm wondering now why I ever got rid of it? So that makes 4 different Taurus firearms I've owned, all of which have been exceptionally good. :D
 
I bought a PT99 (clone of the Beretta) back in the 80s. It was always reliable with reasonably good accuracy. I finally traded it a couple of years ago, but only because the grip frame was a bit big for my hands and I coveted a new 1911.
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Yeehaaaw! Just noticed this was my 4,000th post. That's an awful lot of hot air. :)
 
I have owned two Taurus weapons, One is the Public Defender, which I still have, and the other was a PT1911, the PT1911, was bought used, and the manual safety broke off in just a few weeks, and less than 100 rounds through the weapon, Taurus fixed it in 3 weeks. I sold that PT1911 weapon soon after that, not that there was any real problem with it, it was I was willing to sell it, and got almost what I paid for it.

As far as reliability for weapons, I have only had two weapons that needed to be fixed at the factory. One was the Taurus PT1911, and the other was an H&K P7 PSP, I just got that one back yesterday from H&K, that one also one took 3 weeks to fix. Guns are a mechanical device, all mechanical device can and will fail, it is only a matter of time, off course we are hoping for many years between each failure, if any failure at all, but all mechanical devices will eventually fail, it is just a matter of time.

Neither incident will keep me from buying used, and neither will keep me from buying a Taurus or H&K again. when I am looking for a weapon, I will choose what fits my needs at that time, what purpose am I buying it for, how well it fits my hand, and from there price.
 
I have owned 7 Taurus semi autos over the years. I recently sold my PT809 and replaced it with a FNX-9. I still have and carry a 709, when my clothes don't allow for carrying the FNX.

I have had the 709 for about a year. I put about 600 rounds through it. I haven't had any problems.

Out of the other 6 Taurus I have owned, 3 have had problems. 1 made a trip back to the factory. I owned two 24/7s. One was a 40 S&W Compact. I had no problem with it. I had a 9mm OSS, and it would misfire in double action. It took some time, but I diagnosed and fixed the problem. There was a tab of metal(flashing) on the firing pin block. It slowed the travel of the pin just enough to cause misfires. The part never should have been put in the gun without the flashing removed.

My PT809's sight was 1/8 inch off center. The trigger channel was not finished properly and caused the trigger not to reset. The follower on one mag broke. I fixed the problems.

My experience is that Taurus quality control and customer service is very poor. One the other hand, their designs are good. The triggers are good and have short resets. Once the problems were resolved, the guns worked well.
 
My experience is that Taurus quality control and customer service is very poor.
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Totally agree. I have owned a few (had to send two back for repair). Overall, Taurus are fine for the money but, if there is a problem, the last people you want to deal with is their customer service.
 
My personal experience with Taurus...

PT140...

Full magazine, pull the slide back and release to load a round.

The firing pin stuck out and stopped the first round from loading...

Sent it back to Taurus, they fixed it. Too bad they couldn't fix the complete inaccuracy of it. I'm not a pro, but I know what I'm capable of with a handgun at 30 feet... I struggled to keep it on the paper.

The only Taurus I would consider buying would be a PT92. My buddy has one, and its been a better gun than his Beretta.
 
Alright...all this crap of 100% Taurus is junk is about as ridiculous as saying all Military members are like that idiot A------- George on Top Shot 2.

You can't discredit an entire manufacturer unless you have personally shot every gun they've produced. I've shot one Glock in my life and had 3 stovepipes in 3 clips...doesn't make me wanna blast Glock, just kinda put a bad taste in my mouth, however they are well thought out handguns and I have no ground to speak against them.

Taurus on the other hand I've owned and shot both revolvers and semi-autos and currently own 2 in my small handgun collection and have shot probably 10 different models of their semi's. The thing with Taurus is yes, they've had sketchy pasts with CS, but I've personally never had a problem...makes me wonder if the horror stories come from gun owners who got crappy with the CS...but who knows. I personally inherited a PT92 and called Taurus just to see if they'd still do some warranty work if needed and they said they would and to attach the email sent to me with the gun if I ever returned it to them. <horrible...I think not.

Back to quality of their guns. Will only speak of the models I've personally shot or witnessed first hand being shot a significant amount.

-PT92...one of the finest made large frame 9mm made in my opinion Beretta quality at a Taurus price. Mine has seen numerous rounds and hasn't had a single feeding problem. Would not hesitate to pull it in SD for myself or any family member I love.

-PT911....small frame of the 92 and just as reliable. One I borrowed for a summer to test out put 500 rounds down a range with one feeding blip. Just as highly recommended.

-PT58...a buddy of mine has gone through what he estimates 3000 rounds, 1500 of which have been his own reloads and he claims he's only had 2 feeding problems that whole time and he said it was the first time to the range (of which I wasn't present). I have witnessed probably 300-500 rounds at the range with this thing and it has never so much as hiccuped. It is his truck gun.

-TCP....probably one of my least favorite Tauruses just because I had bad luck with one and got rid of it. Thing had feeding issues, but I got a buddy who swears by it and shoots atleast 50 rounds a trip to the range with me and only had issues the first 100...he's approaching 1200 rounds and since those 2 it has ran fine.

-Millenium series (PT111 is the only one I personally have shot)...only witnessed problems and have witnessed many. I will admit though the main guy I know that shoots one is accused of limp wristing alot and his 9mm and 40 both have given him fits.....but then he hands it to me and not a problem...I just don't like the way they feel.

-Taurus 357 revolver (will be honest don't know model) Inherited it from my dad and the thing is a beast 357 or 38sp fire every single time. Can't even estimate how many times that thing has been shot. Brother trained with it for Law Enforcement and qualified with it for a backup, but then decided he wanted something else. Would not hesitate in the slightest to buy a revolver made by Taurus.

-Taurus 24/7 series I didn't like at all. Never got a good feeling during the short range time I paid to try it out in.


-709 slim.....ergonomically I love the gun, but it is a poly Taurus and my track record with poly's just say stay away. Have held and dry fired but nothing live. Good friend of mine carries one as his daily piece, but he said the thing is extremely picky for ammo.

Overall one cannot make a blanket statement that Taurus is crap, however yes Taurus has some bad eggs both in the pistol line and from hearsay possible in their CS department. However, every all metal framed gun I've owned or witnessed shot has functioned nearly flawlessy (only commented on a few of the main ones here).


(THE NEXT WORDS ARE MY OPINION ALONE, TAKE THEM AS SUCH)

My final thoughts: Taurus is a fine manufacturer, with lemons but every gun brand has one in someone's eyes. I say stay away from their polymers and your basically guaranteed a quality gun, polys from my experience are hit or miss.

Take all this for what you want...me I'll still buy Taurus and not bat an eye.
 
Take this for what you want...

... but a local dealer is going to stop carrying all but the PT92 line from Taurus, because they've had too many issues with initial quality of new weapons, too many customers returning problem weapons, and too much pain in dealing with Taurus repairs.

A friend of mine who works there has sent back six new Public Defenders this year already, for such things as arriving out of timing, and in one case having no B/C gap; the cylinder was bound by the lack of gap.

The dealer has talked to Taurus HQ and told them exactly why he is discontinuing most Taurus sales.
 
Taurus= Yugo

Glock= Toyota

Hk= BMW

You get the picture. You get what you pay for, it's that simple. I plan on never buying a Taurus again after my cruddy experiences.
 
I am staying out of this one, as I never owned a Taurus.

Had a Rossi once that was made by Taurus though and it
was ok for the money.
 
Hk= BMW
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Have you ever owned a BMW... the best BMW mechanic I have ever known who also worked on MB and Volvo used to tell me the more you paid for a BMW the more problems you will have.
 
Have you ever owned a BMW... the best BMW mechanic I have ever known who also worked on MB and Volvo used to tell me the more you paid for a BMW the more problems you will have.
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LOL, ok, make it an Infiniti or Lexus. You get the point I hope.

If you want to make the Yugo a Pinto be my guest. :D
 
Ace...thing is though you're still throwing the whole entire brand under the bus. I'm a huge Springfield, Sig, and Ruger fan but my Tauruses and the ones I listed that I liked I wouldn't hesitate to purchase and carry....now the tcp, 24/7 and millenium series no I'd stay far away from, but would never say whole brand is crap.
 
Ace...thing is though you're still throwing the whole entire brand under the bus
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If every Hk, Sig, Glock, CZ, Walther I've ever owned broke and had to be sent back to the factory I'd feel the same way about them. Yes, every Taurus I've owned has broken(3), not glitched, I'm talking broken. I've yet to have an Hk, Glock, Sig, etc. have actual physical breakage.

In my experience if you buy a quality handgun like an Hk you are going to have a reliable, long lasting firearm, that will service you for many years. All of my Tauri broke with less than 100 rounds through them. Maybe it was a stroke of bad luck, but I'm not going back for more nonsense from that company.

As a plinker, be my guest buy all the Tauri you want. I would never use one to defend me or my family, especially when it boils down to buying Tauri to save a buck. Rarely, if ever, does anyone pick Tauri as their favorite most trusted firearm when they have experience with a quality firearm like listed above.
 
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