riverrat66
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In general, people do not "see" a gun even when someone is printing. If you reach into your waistband and pull out your gun in its holster, and put it in its lockbox or whatever, nobody but nobody is going to pay the slightest bit of attention.
The question stems from the "neon sign effect"...that irrational belief that once you are carrying concealed, EVERYBODY is more aware of YOU and is watching you. It just isn't so. We are trained in this society (especially in cities) NOT to be too observant of others. Those of us who carry for self defense are hopefully always in "condition yellow", but face it, others around us are just not.
This is just not an issue to worry about.
Springmom
Oops, we're back on that topic again!The only reason it is in the glove box in the first place - is usually because I am going to work or someplace where weapons are restricted in my state: Schools, Courthouses
I have a CCW permit and open carry is NOT legal in NY, I do have problems moving my weapon from one location to another. If someone sees me- there is a very good chance that I will have a half dozen cops pointing their guns at me in a matter of minutes!And since I have a CC permit, and Open Carry is legal in VA, I have no problems moving my weapon from one location to another. If someone sees me - I smile at them.
Maybe not in your neck of the woods but it sure as hell is in mine! You guys and gals just don't get it. New York State is not a gun friendly state! In NYC where it is almost impossible to get a CCW permit and is very difficult to obtain a permit to simply possess a handgun in your home or place of business. If one is fortunate enough to get a PREMISE LICENSE and wants to go to the firing range they need to ask permission up to one month in advance and maybe they'll be allowed to take their handgun to the range on a specific date and only on that date.In general, people do not "see" a gun even when someone is printing. If you reach into your waistband and pull out your gun in its holster, and put it in its lockbox or whatever, nobody but nobody is going to pay the slightest bit of attention. This is just not an issue to worry about.
Springmom
Can you imagine? Having to ask permission one month before you want to go to the range? Thank God I don't live in NYC. But read this link and you'll get an idea of how the law works in this state.PREMISE LICENSE: IS A RESTRICTED TYPE OF LICENSE. It is issued for your RESIDENCE or BUSINESS. The Licensee may possess a handgun ONLY on the premises of the address indicated on the front of the license. Requests to remove the firearm for the purpose of practicing at an authorized New York State Range must be made in writing one month PRIOR to the desired date and must be AUTHORIZED, IN WRITING, BY THE COMMANDING OFFICER, LICENSE DIVISION.
They are already doing it in New York! An acquaintance had his tax return withheld because he was "default on his student loans". Others have been known to be arrested as "deadbeat dads" when they went to renew their drivers license.Your CHL is not the only thing that will be impacted by this; the state of Texas is hooking student loans and "deadbeat parent" issues to a number of things. I would expect, although I am guessing, that one of these days driver's licenses will also be linked to these issues.