Squib with both powder and primer present

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I have only had squibs (Yes more than one) when I did not pay close attention to my case prep. I cleaned them as I always do but did not dry them as I was anxious to load some rounds up. Rule one for me now is to never be in a hurry when reloading.

The moister caused a few (3-4) before I stopped and pulled 300 rounds of 5.56 ammo. Lesson was a big one. I was shooting my AR and had I been a few mags into the shooting session I may have been in rapid fire mode and that would have been crappy!
 
I did one test dropping a couple corncob chunks into the primer then seating it . They blew right on out . I took pics but I'll do more test tomorrow and post all the results . I have a couple cases that I plugged the flash holes good using a punch . so we'll see how those go .
 
Realgun:
I wrote:
Generally,if I am stumped about a problem ,and I ask for help,I am at least open to the wisdom and experience of those who make a serious attempt to help me.

I'm happy to help,but not interested in arguing.

One question I have for you,if you don't know enough to solve your own problem,how can you know enough to reject the path to solution?
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To which you responded:

If you are going to bully, at least read the whole thread. Bottom line is I have heeded the cautions and changed powders.

If what someone tells me, an experienced reloader with ability to judge or be skeptical of what others offer, is building on what I believe is a false premise or insufficient reading of the thread before commenting, I am entitled to respond and be respected
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I'm noticing your response to straight talk is "I'm being bullied",and you believe "I am entitled to respond and be respected"

And to Tim SR 's comment
If you are going to immediately close your mind to any question of the load you are using, there is little point in continuing the discussion, and quite frankly, not sure why you bothered to ask.
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You respond:
I asked because I was confident, perhaps overly so, that the load did not cause the squib. I was looking for other ideas. If you now need to beat me up for my evolving reasoning on the matter, you are bullying without offering anything useful. Just please read the whole thread first before you launch.
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Beat up? Bullied? :rolleyes:

While there seems to be a double standard going on.

To Salmoneye,you said:
You have a logic and language problem there. The squib didn't cause the squib. Does your personal sparring with me contribute anything?
Yesterday 03:28 PM
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Throughout this thread you have been dismissive and disrespectful to a number of people,including : the powder and bullet manufacturers if ..What? We don't agree with your position that some outside force is victimizing you to cause your squib?

And you are being bullied?????? :eek:

Wow.

Just,Wow.

Mr Realgun,...I may have overlooked it,perhaps its there someplace and I missed it.

In response to the heartfelt "Thank You" that you offered (I assume)I will offer

"You are welcome,Sir." :-) Have a nice day.
 
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Real Gun said:
What I am "not open to" is the conclusion that the load caused the squib. There was no physical evidence of that,
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Salmoneye said:
The physical evidence is the squib...
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Real Gun said:
You have a logic and language problem there. The squib didn't cause the squib. Does your personal sparring with me contribute anything?
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IMNSHO...The load caused the squib...

If you can't follow that, you really shouldn't be preaching about logic and/or language...

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I created a post which offered an explanation of how neither the primer, nor the load could be at fault, and withdrew it. Because in this thread, between the main protagonists, the only accepted causes of the OP's problems are primers and load data.

So guys, have fun trying to figure this one out when you don't want to hear anything but your own solutions.
 
Metal God - note that when I tumble, the spent primers are still in the cases. I decap on the press during sizing and then prime on the press. I believe media remaining in the flash hole during loading is then less likely.
 
Salmoneye - Throughout this thread you have been dismissive and disrespectful to a number of people,including : the powder and bullet manufacturers if ..What? We don't agree with your position that some outside force is victimizing you to cause your squib?

And you are being bullied??????
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The above is bullying because you are either mischaracterizing what I wrote or cannot actually quote me as having written any such thing. Why do you need to now torpedo this thread?
 
Guys..... Why don't we back away a bit until we can get some actual firing data using
ever-decreasing charges to see the burn consistency effect (such as it might be).
 
Agree.

Slamfire, I'm sorry you withdrew the post. As I said earlier, the weak mainspring is a good possible explanation.

Seems like the whole thread is devolving into the hurt feelings and reactions to same, so I think it's time to close it. Except for Slamfire's missing information, it seems to have covered the realm of possibilities.
 
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