(SOT) Serious lifestyle question that ties in with guns...
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oberkommando
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Mike, "question that ties in with guns... " a little CYA? 
280 So am I. I was 345 at start of year.
I Check weight weekly and keep journel, my goal weight is around 220-240 depending on how much lean mass I loose on the way down. Has been less than .25lbs for every 10lbs lost so isnt going down very fast. Hopefully it stays that way.
I agree with a lot of what KAM said, you need to keep the meals small but frequent. So your body knows it will always have food and doesn't need to store any more weight.
DZ Has good point also.
H2O The FUD WAY.
Jeff you gotta get rid of that job!
1911, Weight training is very good, I do it often.
Also think Mikul hit on important point in keeping simple surgars to a minimum, as it spikes insulin and puts you in a position to store fat easily.
DannyO is definitly right, too fast off and you can re-gain more easily.
KOG is right about % of body fat. Some triainers have a electronic scale [TANITA] that is pretty consistent, that sends voltage through legs to determine all sorts of factors. Like BodyMassIndex,FAT%,Basal Metabolic Rate,Impeadence,Fat Mass,Fat Free Mass,and Total Body Water. I use one that a trainer owns at the gym I go to [$1700] too much for me, that could be a 308.
Disagree with the percentage of protein posted by others but that is par for course for most lifters, as I lift and do cardio five days a week. I think you can lower carbs as low as you need but not so low where you feel bad. I had mine down under 40g a day for a number of weeks and did my weight training during that time. The first weeek I felt tired but my body got used to it.
As to keytosis I think you only have problem with it when you end up in that state when you are eating carbs.
Been in ketosis before by inducing it myself and felt fine. There are urine sticks they sell "keyto-sticks" that will give you the level. I wish I could stay there longer but love the carbs too much. I keep mine around 100-150 grams a day. I keep my protein around 200-250 3/4th from suppliments. And fat around 50-75 grams a day. Saturated fat levels are low as most of my food is protein powder and 40-30-30 bars.Other sources include skinless chicken and fish.
I know a trainer at my gym, the one mentioned above that is 48 years old and looks better than everyone else. He likes the 40-30-30 diet very well. He keeps his fat% at around 5-7%. Looks awesome, 5'8" 180lbs.
My way is around 50-20-30 it's working so far. With total caloric intake fluctuating between 1600-2700.
I don't think [SAT] fat is all that bad IF it is consumed in a very low carb state, which most of us cannot maintain. Look at eskimos from the past they primarily ate high saturated fat and protein diets and yet had very little if any heart disease. If you have carbs I think it is important to keep the fat types to mono or poly and also a moderate amount of them.No heaping mounds of mayo which is low in sat fat! Also watchin total calories does force you to eat a moderate fat diet as a high one will put you over your limit easily.
My days usually go like this, except saturday which is cheat day Get up in morning go to gym, suck down a thermospeed or ECA Stack of some sort (don't do if you have high blood pressure or can't tolerate these things or feel uneasy about thermogenics) get on bike 30 minute later and do a 30 minute ride at moderate lever, but on alternate days do the ride as a interval session with periods of anarobic heart rate (up to 175bpm). After this I do weight training with free weights primarily. Usually 45- 1 1/2 hours depending on how long I train my calves and talk to the women.Will consume 60-80 ounces of water during workout. I do the cardio first thing on empty stomache because I feel it keeps TMR [total metabolic rate] up longer than if I ate. And that is the general consensus among most people that I know that train or look very fit. Text books say a lot of things academically but in some cases you can see a contradiction when you apply things in the gym and they work but the books say other wise.
BTW my brother graduated Loma Linda University Medical College (for you non pepsi generation people that is where they did that baboon heart transplant years ago) and says a lot of what they try to explain about exercise is bs. He has since left the medical field to become an LEO. Dont worry, I'll keep him in line.
As I said before I keep journal of food consumed including the following, Food source,protein,carbs,fat,calories,and time of day to make sure I eat at least every three hours.
I think the main thing is to stick with it and check your progress regularly and modify things if they seem to get stangnant. More than three weeks without change. This is just MHO, hope you find some of it helpfull.
Best of luck Mike.
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280 So am I. I was 345 at start of year.
I Check weight weekly and keep journel, my goal weight is around 220-240 depending on how much lean mass I loose on the way down. Has been less than .25lbs for every 10lbs lost so isnt going down very fast. Hopefully it stays that way.
I agree with a lot of what KAM said, you need to keep the meals small but frequent. So your body knows it will always have food and doesn't need to store any more weight.
DZ Has good point also.
H2O The FUD WAY.
Jeff you gotta get rid of that job!
1911, Weight training is very good, I do it often.
Also think Mikul hit on important point in keeping simple surgars to a minimum, as it spikes insulin and puts you in a position to store fat easily.
DannyO is definitly right, too fast off and you can re-gain more easily.
KOG is right about % of body fat. Some triainers have a electronic scale [TANITA] that is pretty consistent, that sends voltage through legs to determine all sorts of factors. Like BodyMassIndex,FAT%,Basal Metabolic Rate,Impeadence,Fat Mass,Fat Free Mass,and Total Body Water. I use one that a trainer owns at the gym I go to [$1700] too much for me, that could be a 308.
Disagree with the percentage of protein posted by others but that is par for course for most lifters, as I lift and do cardio five days a week. I think you can lower carbs as low as you need but not so low where you feel bad. I had mine down under 40g a day for a number of weeks and did my weight training during that time. The first weeek I felt tired but my body got used to it.
As to keytosis I think you only have problem with it when you end up in that state when you are eating carbs.
Been in ketosis before by inducing it myself and felt fine. There are urine sticks they sell "keyto-sticks" that will give you the level. I wish I could stay there longer but love the carbs too much. I keep mine around 100-150 grams a day. I keep my protein around 200-250 3/4th from suppliments. And fat around 50-75 grams a day. Saturated fat levels are low as most of my food is protein powder and 40-30-30 bars.Other sources include skinless chicken and fish.
I know a trainer at my gym, the one mentioned above that is 48 years old and looks better than everyone else. He likes the 40-30-30 diet very well. He keeps his fat% at around 5-7%. Looks awesome, 5'8" 180lbs.
My way is around 50-20-30 it's working so far. With total caloric intake fluctuating between 1600-2700.
I don't think [SAT] fat is all that bad IF it is consumed in a very low carb state, which most of us cannot maintain. Look at eskimos from the past they primarily ate high saturated fat and protein diets and yet had very little if any heart disease. If you have carbs I think it is important to keep the fat types to mono or poly and also a moderate amount of them.No heaping mounds of mayo which is low in sat fat! Also watchin total calories does force you to eat a moderate fat diet as a high one will put you over your limit easily.
My days usually go like this, except saturday which is cheat day
Get up in morning go to gym, suck down a thermospeed or ECA Stack of some sort (don't do if you have high blood pressure or can't tolerate these things or feel uneasy about thermogenics) get on bike 30 minute later and do a 30 minute ride at moderate lever, but on alternate days do the ride as a interval session with periods of anarobic heart rate (up to 175bpm). After this I do weight training with free weights primarily. Usually 45- 1 1/2 hours depending on how long I train my calves and talk to the women.Will consume 60-80 ounces of water during workout. I do the cardio first thing on empty stomache because I feel it keeps TMR [total metabolic rate] up longer than if I ate. And that is the general consensus among most people that I know that train or look very fit. Text books say a lot of things academically but in some cases you can see a contradiction when you apply things in the gym and they work but the books say other wise. BTW my brother graduated Loma Linda University Medical College (for you non pepsi generation people that is where they did that baboon heart transplant years ago) and says a lot of what they try to explain about exercise is bs. He has since left the medical field to become an LEO. Dont worry, I'll keep him in line.
As I said before I keep journal of food consumed including the following, Food source,protein,carbs,fat,calories,and time of day to make sure I eat at least every three hours.
I think the main thing is to stick with it and check your progress regularly and modify things if they seem to get stangnant. More than three weeks without change. This is just MHO, hope you find some of it helpfull.
Best of luck Mike.
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Of all the popular/commercial diets, WW seems to be the only one that really offers a healthy, sensible approach to changing your eating habits permanently.
Beware of the Zone and all the other high protein diets. Not healthy and scientifically sketchy.
Haven't had to watch my weight at all since I started belly dancing three times a week. Maybe you should try that.
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Beware of the Zone and all the other high protein diets. Not healthy and scientifically sketchy.
Haven't had to watch my weight at all since I started belly dancing three times a week. Maybe you should try that.
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Mike, fluid ounces are not the same as regular ounces. If you weigh 280 lbs that would be 280 ounces of water X 1 gal / 128 oz = 2.1875 gallons. It works out the same mathmatically though since you are talking about water which has a density of 1.
That isn't a whole lot of water. Just a little over 8 quarts. assumming you are awake 16 hrs a day dink one quart every two hours.
That isn't a whole lot of water. Just a little over 8 quarts. assumming you are awake 16 hrs a day dink one quart every two hours.
PaladinX13
New member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FUD:
Drink AT LEAST one ounce of ice water per pound of body weight. This has several benefits:<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI> All that water is excellent for flushing out the kidneys
<LI> Your body will burn up calories in raising the temp of the cold water to 98.6
<LI> The water will fill you up so that you don't snack in between meals and you'll even have a hard time even getting your regular meals down.</UL>I dropped forty pounds in ten days and kept most of it off for a couple of years before slowly gaining it back but my problem is late nights at the office with a vending machine. Regards, FUD.[/quote]
Question, is that right? I'm 230 pounds so that means I drink 230 oz? Fluid oz? A normal bottle of water is around 12 fluid oz so that's 19 bottles? I suppose that's possible but over what period of time? Through out the day, before each meal, or what? 40 lbs in 10 days is quite impressive so I'm eager to attempt this.
Drink AT LEAST one ounce of ice water per pound of body weight. This has several benefits:<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI> All that water is excellent for flushing out the kidneys
<LI> Your body will burn up calories in raising the temp of the cold water to 98.6
<LI> The water will fill you up so that you don't snack in between meals and you'll even have a hard time even getting your regular meals down.</UL>I dropped forty pounds in ten days and kept most of it off for a couple of years before slowly gaining it back but my problem is late nights at the office with a vending machine. Regards, FUD.[/quote]
Question, is that right? I'm 230 pounds so that means I drink 230 oz? Fluid oz? A normal bottle of water is around 12 fluid oz so that's 19 bottles? I suppose that's possible but over what period of time? Through out the day, before each meal, or what? 40 lbs in 10 days is quite impressive so I'm eager to attempt this.
David Blinder
New member
As someone afflicted with adult onset diabetes, I can suggest that you visit a registered diatician to work out on plan with you. I'm 5'10" and went from 190 to 160 in about 6 months and have kept it all off for several years. Basically, I'm on a low carb, low fat diet combined with moderate exercise. There is very little I can't eat but I do have to make choices (burger without the bun if I want fries). I do miss my regular Coke but one 12oz can has equivalent of 9 tablespoons of sugar vs. none in a diet Coke. Make the committment and you will never regret it. If you don't, you might end up like me and be forced to do it. Take it from me, drawing blood five times and day and dealing with insulin is not a great way to spend the rest of your life.
Mike Spight
New member
Mike,
Good luck to you. You've received a lot of good advice here and there's not a lot I can add except to lend my moral support and offer you my twist on things.
--Drink lots of h2o every day...I shoot for 8 to 10 8 oz glasses minimum.
--Cut back on food in general, especially fats. Try several small snacks daily rather than the traditional three meals and see if that helps. Also, avoid eating after 1800 hours (6:00PM) if possible.
--As a retired soldier and paratrooper, I like beer as much (maybe more) than most guys...if you can stand it, try the "light" versions. Pound the real stuff only on special occasions. Limit your intake drastically (this is really, really hard!)
--Try to cross train, as it will help avoid boredom. In my case, I try to run or swim or ride my mountain bike on Tues/Thurs/Sat. Whatever I feel like. If the weather is bad, I go to the gym and get on a stair climber for 30 mins at max intensity level.
--Lift weights three days a week. In order to save time, I now concentrate on using a gravitron machine for doing pull-ups and dips (sets of each) and also do sets of push-ups. Going to a gym and counsulting with a trainer might be a good idea in your particular case.
--You can do abs everyday, but taking one day off a week is a good idea. Crunches, flutter kicks (if you lower back can handle them) and knee lifts on a Roman Chair will work through the upper and lower abs. DO NOT do standard, bent leg/supported leg sit-ups...they only work the hip flexors in your thighs, don't do a thing for your abs and they place tremendous strain on the lower back.
Finally, about every 45 to 60 days, I've found that taking a week off from the workout schedule does wonders for you physically and mentally. It will recharge your batteries, so to speak.
Take care,
Mike
Good luck to you. You've received a lot of good advice here and there's not a lot I can add except to lend my moral support and offer you my twist on things.
--Drink lots of h2o every day...I shoot for 8 to 10 8 oz glasses minimum.
--Cut back on food in general, especially fats. Try several small snacks daily rather than the traditional three meals and see if that helps. Also, avoid eating after 1800 hours (6:00PM) if possible.
--As a retired soldier and paratrooper, I like beer as much (maybe more) than most guys...if you can stand it, try the "light" versions. Pound the real stuff only on special occasions. Limit your intake drastically (this is really, really hard!)
--Try to cross train, as it will help avoid boredom. In my case, I try to run or swim or ride my mountain bike on Tues/Thurs/Sat. Whatever I feel like. If the weather is bad, I go to the gym and get on a stair climber for 30 mins at max intensity level.
--Lift weights three days a week. In order to save time, I now concentrate on using a gravitron machine for doing pull-ups and dips (sets of each) and also do sets of push-ups. Going to a gym and counsulting with a trainer might be a good idea in your particular case.
--You can do abs everyday, but taking one day off a week is a good idea. Crunches, flutter kicks (if you lower back can handle them) and knee lifts on a Roman Chair will work through the upper and lower abs. DO NOT do standard, bent leg/supported leg sit-ups...they only work the hip flexors in your thighs, don't do a thing for your abs and they place tremendous strain on the lower back.
Finally, about every 45 to 60 days, I've found that taking a week off from the workout schedule does wonders for you physically and mentally. It will recharge your batteries, so to speak.
Take care,
Mike
I can tell you what did and did not work for me.
I am cursed with a low metabolism. I tried the Atkins diet, and I just couldn't do it! The meal plan was so restrictive that I derailed. I couldn't handle restricting myself to meat/eggs/cheese/green vegetables. I was hungry all the time.
I tried Metabolife. No effect.
Then I tried this:
http://www.nutritionforlife.com/shop/product.asp?id=07031&Sales_Org=US01&Page=1
I used this during Nov/Dec of '99. I am six feet tall. I went from 225 to 180 in two months. That was about 9 months ago. I now weigh 190. I rarely exercise. I don't regulate my diet, but I don't "pig out" on junk food. Point is, I haven't used the stuff for 9 months and I did not gain all the weight back right away. If I hit 200, I'll go on it again because I know it works. I just drank it 3 times a day and the effect was incredible. And other people really noticed the change.
My mother-in-law also used it, and reported great success. I don't have numbers because I knew better than to ask her about her weight
It costs about $30 per month. Don't let the amway-style marketing throw you off. Once I got past that and bought a can from one of my customers, the weight came off fast.
I can get you the email address of the person I bought it from if you want it. He's an honest guy, and he makes a ton of money so other people must be doing well with the stuff, too.
BTW, I just had fries, coke, and two cheeseburgers for dinner. Go figure.
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I am cursed with a low metabolism. I tried the Atkins diet, and I just couldn't do it! The meal plan was so restrictive that I derailed. I couldn't handle restricting myself to meat/eggs/cheese/green vegetables. I was hungry all the time.
I tried Metabolife. No effect.
Then I tried this:
http://www.nutritionforlife.com/shop/product.asp?id=07031&Sales_Org=US01&Page=1
I used this during Nov/Dec of '99. I am six feet tall. I went from 225 to 180 in two months. That was about 9 months ago. I now weigh 190. I rarely exercise. I don't regulate my diet, but I don't "pig out" on junk food. Point is, I haven't used the stuff for 9 months and I did not gain all the weight back right away. If I hit 200, I'll go on it again because I know it works. I just drank it 3 times a day and the effect was incredible. And other people really noticed the change.
My mother-in-law also used it, and reported great success. I don't have numbers because I knew better than to ask her about her weight
It costs about $30 per month. Don't let the amway-style marketing throw you off. Once I got past that and bought a can from one of my customers, the weight came off fast.
I can get you the email address of the person I bought it from if you want it. He's an honest guy, and he makes a ton of money so other people must be doing well with the stuff, too.
BTW, I just had fries, coke, and two cheeseburgers for dinner. Go figure.
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NRA/GOA/SAF/USMC
Oregon residents please support the Oregon Firearms Federation, our only "No compromise" gun lobby. http://www.oregonfirearms.org
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Did you look into Atkin's diet? My sister lost 28 pounds in 5 months and kept it off for over 2 years now. Also, a co-work lost 65 pounds in 10 months and has kept it off for 6 months now. Both on this Atkin's diet. I was told that the great thing about this diet is that you can all the protein you want (that means meat, cheese, etc.) but just can't eat starch and sugar.
Mike Irwin
Staff
Taco,
Go about 1/3 of the way through the discussion for my description of what happened when I tried the Atkins diet.
Not a good thing.
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
Go about 1/3 of the way through the discussion for my description of what happened when I tried the Atkins diet.
Not a good thing.
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
MountainGun44
New member
I am in the middle of going from 248 back down to the 190 range where I am in decent shape. It took me several years to get this out of shape, and I am expecting it will take me at least six months to get back to my pre-marriage,kids, and desk job weight.
My advice:
No more fast food. Period. Stay away from Carl's Jr. Double Western Bacon Cheeseburgers and the like.
Get a heart-rate monitor and learn about the optimum fat-burning heart rate for your body. You will be very surprised about just how easy it is to get yourself into that zone and keep it there for 20 minutes a day. This is very important because most of us over do it. Working out too hard doesn't burn fat faster, and if it makes you quit your plan it is even worse than doing nothing. Walking is great excercise. I personally like biking. You don't have to go hard and fast to lose weight.
I am at 234.5 right now after about a month of just cutting out fast food. Keep us posted on how it goes. It will motivate you. I am motivated for all of the reasons you listed + I want to do everything I can to make sure I am around to watch my kids grow up so I can torment them when they are adults and have kids of their own.
Regards,
Dave
My advice:
No more fast food. Period. Stay away from Carl's Jr. Double Western Bacon Cheeseburgers and the like.
Get a heart-rate monitor and learn about the optimum fat-burning heart rate for your body. You will be very surprised about just how easy it is to get yourself into that zone and keep it there for 20 minutes a day. This is very important because most of us over do it. Working out too hard doesn't burn fat faster, and if it makes you quit your plan it is even worse than doing nothing. Walking is great excercise. I personally like biking. You don't have to go hard and fast to lose weight.
I am at 234.5 right now after about a month of just cutting out fast food. Keep us posted on how it goes. It will motivate you. I am motivated for all of the reasons you listed + I want to do everything I can to make sure I am around to watch my kids grow up so I can torment them when they are adults and have kids of their own.
Regards,
Dave
oberkommando
New member
Longshot is the coffee theromgenic? Ephidrine, ephedra?
Duck, if you are ever in my area let me know if you want an audience.
Hey mike are you related to Steve? You could just follow his advice and to a little croc wrass -L- in
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Duck, if you are ever in my area let me know if you want an audience.
Hey mike are you related to Steve? You could just follow his advice and to a little croc wrass -L- in
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My wife and I tried the Adkins diet. The first week (as predicted) nothing. The second week, I lost 3, my wife lost 5, the weight really does come off, but it isn't as easy as the book makes it out to be. By week 3, we were craving a piece of white bread like you can't imagine. by the second cycle, we were cheating like crazy, so we gave it up all together. The Adkins diet is good if you can keep on it. We decided exercise is much better for your personality.
Mike & PaladinX13 (with regard to drinking one ounce of water per pound of body weight):
This is what I did back in 1991/92 (don't recall the exact year) when I was 238 pounds ...<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Upon waking up and before leaving for work, I drank 1 Leter (33.6 ounces) of cold water. This really isn't that difficult to do ... You take a couple of mouthfuls (from the bottle) upon arising. Another few mouthfuls before shaving. Some more after shaving. Some before brushing your teeth. Some after rushing your teeth. Some before showering. Some after showering. Some before getting dressed. Some after getting dressed. And the leter was gone.
<LI> I then brought with me a half leter (16.8 ounces) bottle in the car which I drank on the way to work.
<LI> First thing that I did (after going to the bathroom) when I got to the office was hit the cafe and filled up a 32 ounce plastic cup that I had with ice water which I drank throughout the early morning.
<LI> Then during break, I stopped at the cafe again for another 32 ounces.
<LI> During lunch I wasn't really hungry so I ate lite and drank a half leter (16.8 ounces) bottle of water.
<LI> Before leaving the cafe, I refilled my 32 ounce plastic cup with ice water which I drank at my desk during the early afternoon.
<LI> During the afternoon break, I stopped at the cafe again for another 32 ounces.
<LI> During the drive home I drank another half leter (16.8 ounces) bottle of water
<LI> I wasn't really hungry during supper so I ate lite and drank about 16 ounces of water.
<LI> Before going to bed, I consumed another one leter (33.6 ounces) bottle of water</UL>Total daily water consumption was about 261.6 ounces of water. I did this (drinking a lot of water, no breakfast, very lite lunch & supper and no snacks) for ten days and I dropped about forty pounds -- from 238 to 196-198.
After losing the weight, I cut back on the water consumption to about half an ounce per pound of body weight. It's been about 8 or 9 years now since I've lost the weight and I back to about 220-225. So, in eight or nine years I've regained about half the weight that I lost.
Some tips ... The first couple of days, I felt like I was floating. Then I sort of adjusted to it for about a week and then the last couple of days I started feeling that "floating" feeling again and decided to stop. Originally, I was planning to drop down to about 180 but stopped at 196 (or there abouts).
Finally, I need to say that I'm not a doctor and this should not be taken as medical advise. It worked for me but it may or may not work for somebody else. I was actually told about this by my doctor -- drinking lots of water is healthy and as long as you eat a balanced lunch & supper for your nutrients, you should be fine.
By the way, in the time it took me to type this post, I drank more than half of my 32 ounce cup -- so it really isn't that difficult and fortunately the bathroom is a right turn out of my cube about six feet, then a left turn turn down the hallway about 12-15 feet and it's right there.
Gettting caught in unexpected traffic jams on the way home from work can be a bit of a problem -- if you know what I mean.
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This is what I did back in 1991/92 (don't recall the exact year) when I was 238 pounds ...<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Upon waking up and before leaving for work, I drank 1 Leter (33.6 ounces) of cold water. This really isn't that difficult to do ... You take a couple of mouthfuls (from the bottle) upon arising. Another few mouthfuls before shaving. Some more after shaving. Some before brushing your teeth. Some after rushing your teeth. Some before showering. Some after showering. Some before getting dressed. Some after getting dressed. And the leter was gone.
<LI> I then brought with me a half leter (16.8 ounces) bottle in the car which I drank on the way to work.
<LI> First thing that I did (after going to the bathroom) when I got to the office was hit the cafe and filled up a 32 ounce plastic cup that I had with ice water which I drank throughout the early morning.
<LI> Then during break, I stopped at the cafe again for another 32 ounces.
<LI> During lunch I wasn't really hungry so I ate lite and drank a half leter (16.8 ounces) bottle of water.
<LI> Before leaving the cafe, I refilled my 32 ounce plastic cup with ice water which I drank at my desk during the early afternoon.
<LI> During the afternoon break, I stopped at the cafe again for another 32 ounces.
<LI> During the drive home I drank another half leter (16.8 ounces) bottle of water
<LI> I wasn't really hungry during supper so I ate lite and drank about 16 ounces of water.
<LI> Before going to bed, I consumed another one leter (33.6 ounces) bottle of water</UL>Total daily water consumption was about 261.6 ounces of water. I did this (drinking a lot of water, no breakfast, very lite lunch & supper and no snacks) for ten days and I dropped about forty pounds -- from 238 to 196-198.
After losing the weight, I cut back on the water consumption to about half an ounce per pound of body weight. It's been about 8 or 9 years now since I've lost the weight and I back to about 220-225. So, in eight or nine years I've regained about half the weight that I lost.
Some tips ... The first couple of days, I felt like I was floating. Then I sort of adjusted to it for about a week and then the last couple of days I started feeling that "floating" feeling again and decided to stop. Originally, I was planning to drop down to about 180 but stopped at 196 (or there abouts).
Finally, I need to say that I'm not a doctor and this should not be taken as medical advise. It worked for me but it may or may not work for somebody else. I was actually told about this by my doctor -- drinking lots of water is healthy and as long as you eat a balanced lunch & supper for your nutrients, you should be fine.
By the way, in the time it took me to type this post, I drank more than half of my 32 ounce cup -- so it really isn't that difficult and fortunately the bathroom is a right turn out of my cube about six feet, then a left turn turn down the hallway about 12-15 feet and it's right there.
Gettting caught in unexpected traffic jams on the way home from work can be a bit of a problem -- if you know what I mean.
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I have the solution to the water problem.
Buy a Camelbak MULE, HAWG Maximum Gear or whatever. The HAWG holds 100 ounces of water (3 liters), don't know about the other ones.
Fill it with water and take it to the office, etc. every day. Now you've got the "tactical" look AND you can get your water allocation for the day, without running back and forth to the water cooler.
Works for me.
Justin
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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
Buy a Camelbak MULE, HAWG Maximum Gear or whatever. The HAWG holds 100 ounces of water (3 liters), don't know about the other ones.
Fill it with water and take it to the office, etc. every day. Now you've got the "tactical" look AND you can get your water allocation for the day, without running back and forth to the water cooler.
Works for me.
Justin
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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
Mike Irwin
Staff
I am NOT going to walk around my office with a freaking saddle tank on my back!!!!!!
God help us all...
I'm on my 3rd or 4th 22-ounce cup of icewater this afternoon. I'm burning out my shoes for trips to the john...
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
God help us all...
I'm on my 3rd or 4th 22-ounce cup of icewater this afternoon. I'm burning out my shoes for trips to the john...
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
Mike Irwin
Staff
FUD,
With all due respect to your 40 pound loss in 10 days, I am NOT, repeat NOT going to attempt the same thing.
Quite frankly, a weight loss that rapid is dangerous.
During that time, you likely burned as much muscle as you did fat, as fat is the last thing that the body wants to burn.
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
With all due respect to your 40 pound loss in 10 days, I am NOT, repeat NOT going to attempt the same thing.
Quite frankly, a weight loss that rapid is dangerous.
During that time, you likely burned as much muscle as you did fat, as fat is the last thing that the body wants to burn.
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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.