Someone finally says it: “California has a negative influence on our society”

That is part of the trouble you sell your place in that mess and get enough to buy a nicer one here and still put bucks in the bank. Has made the cost of housing here skyrocket and folks know it and don't like ya for it.
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Can't decide to laugh at people complaining that their house is worth more or the economic error in thinking people from CA are paying so much more than a house is worth driving prices up.
 
I'm from Texas.
A friend of mine used to have a hat that said it all.

"I don't care how Ya'll did it up North" in response to all the Yankees (Northeners).
 
"See, this is good."

No, it's *not* good. It's just another California-bashing thread, as you knew it would be when you started it.

Tim
 
California is long overdue for bashing. they've been on their left wing highhorse long enough. so it is a good thread.;)

They used to be a beautiful state and was the land of RR and RR. (Roy Rogers and Ronald Reagan). The land of Jack Webb and the LA Police. Gene Autry and the California Angels where Nolan Ryan moved up in his baseball career. Kept a relatively level head about them and kept to themselves.

Now they are the land of illegal aliens, AIDs, Gay Pride, communism, superficial pop culture, bad accents, the occasional riot, frequent earthquakes, high housing cost, anti-smoking legislation, anti-christian legislation, anti-gun legislation, anti everything traditional and a governor that can't talk. All this doesn't bother me much except they want the rest of the country to be more like them. Makes me wish Luthor had won in the first Superman movie :D
 
I wish they all could be california
I wish they all could be california
I wish they all could be california girls
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I lived there when that song was written, and believe me it ain't the same times have changed.

I grew up in rural areas near farms and agriculture, then had a fish hatchery almost in the back yard, and saw deer fron the living room window. Nearly all of that is roof tops now and to a large part the faces have changed too
 
Now they are the land of ... AIDs ...
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What sort of foolishness is this? New York, maybe...but California?

Non-exhaustive list of states that (as of 2005) had higher rates of AIDS than California:

Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Mississippi
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas

Now, some of the other "usual" suspects are above California to such as New York, New Jersey, Connecticut (basically anywhere within driving distance of New York City), Illinois, etc. But the point is that among "populated" states, California seems to have one of the lower rates of HIV/AIDS. Odd, considering all the Gay Pride and what not.

I'd hypothesize that it has something to do with them being more "liberal" and thus more accepting of teaching their kids how to use a darn condom and encouraging them to do so. But I have no experience with the California school system, so I could be wrong (and have no way to test it anyway).
 
I'd hypothesize that it has something to do with them being more "liberal" and thus more accepting of teaching their kids how to use a darn condom and encouraging them to do so. But I have no experience with the California school system, so I could be wrong (and have no way to test it anyway).
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Oh yeah! Thanks for listing that I knew I left something off the list.:barf: ;)
 
California seems to have one of the lower rates of HIV/AIDS. Odd, considering all the Gay Pride and what not.
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Sounds like someone hasn't been there enough to know that what you see come out of San Fran and the North Hollywood areas are not supported by your average Californian. Or at least wasn't when I lived there.

I don't care for the place and don't want to live there but there are millions of good folks there.
 
don't care for the place and don't want to live there but there are millions of good folks there
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poor them. Maybe people like them will one day turn their state back to sanity and liberate that state as their ancestors did hoisting up the Bear flag in seceding from Mexico during the Mexican War.:cool:
 
"Now they are the land of illegal aliens, AIDs, Gay Pride, communism, superficial pop culture, bad accents, the occasional riot, frequent earthquakes, high housing cost, anti-smoking legislation, anti-christian legislation, anti-gun legislation, anti everything traditional and a governor that can't talk."

*yawn*

Let me know if you come up with something that hasn't been "discussed" on TFL a dozen times before...

Meanwhile, those of us who live here will continue to fight the absurd gun laws as best we can. Though we could *use* some support from the rest of you, even if it's just a few encouraging thoughts and words, we have long since found out that we can't count on it.

You may now continue your painting. Remember, widest brush possible, and long strokes.

Tim
 
California seems to have one of the lower rates of HIV/AIDS. Odd, considering all the Gay Pride and what not.
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Sounds like someone hasn't been there enough to know that what you see come out of San Fran and the North Hollywood areas are not supported by your average Californian. Or at least wasn't when I lived there.

I don't care for the place and don't want to live there but there are millions of good folks there.
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That, or I was being facetious. Doug called it the land of Gay Pride. I actually have spent time in California outside San Francisco and North Hollywood, and know that not everywhere is The Castro.

Thanks, though.
 
AIDS made it's American debut in California
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Only if you're looking at the first identified and treated cases. Which to me might say more about the healthcare system in California that the people. While perhaps it should be taken with a grain of salt, wikipedia tells me they've found HIV in a tissue sample from somebody in St. Louis as far back as 1969.

EDIT: Also, what does this say about the states I mentioned? That it made its debut in California but...Texas and Mississippi liked it more?

It does sound like prejudice and ignorance abound around here.
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Indeed.
 
wikipedia tells me
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Ah oh
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Hey, I said grain of salt. Are you suggesting that there weren't US cases outside of California before 1981? Because if you are, I'll go ahead and find a non-wikipedia source...just for you.

EDIT: You also do realize that wikipedia is right more often than it's wrong, right? Especially on non-current affairs and non-controversial issues.

Here's one
Here's another (Though it's a near-verbatim copy of what wiki said, so I can't tell you which way that info flowed)
Here's another (This one actually discredits [though not conclusively] the St. Louis case, but brings forward another case (or two) from the early 70's from New Jersey...which is also not California)

So what do you have?
 
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Talk about annoying accents ... My NC niece talks like a valley girl? She raises the tone of her voice at the end of every sentence kind of like its a question? But it's not? I don't think that she's ever even been to California?

Most of the States have a negative influence on our culture. California is bad ... but I kind of think of Massachusetts as historically being the bad apple.
 
When I moved to Washington state in the late 70s (from southern California) one of the more popular bumper stickers here said:

"Don't Californicate Washington"
 
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