Some advice requested: shady subject at LEO house

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Hello all. I dont post much and well I'll get down to it. Hopefully this is in the right place as I'm only interested in handguns for this HD situation.

I'm an LEO in a pretty large Metro Atlanta PD (Go Braves... :rolleyes:). Prior to that I did 8 years in the Marines. Most of my experience as far as guns are with semiautos (glocks for work and I carry a VP9). I recently bought my fiance a S&W Shield 9mm, which she loves and can shoot quite well. The only problem is that she has difficulty racking the slide to load a round or clear a failure. Now the gun came SUPER stiff, and more breaking in of the spring is required, this I know, but some odd things have happened around the house lately.

While I as at work one night, my fiance was putting up some Christmas decorations around the house when she saw a male walk past the window in my backyard and appeared to be looking for something. She ran upstairs, called the local police, and grabbed her gun (good girl) but the subject was gone by the time local police got there.

Two nights ago (actually about 0245 yesterday morning) after coming from a late showing of a terrible new Star Wars movie, I was upstairs while she was setting up some Call of Duty (wanted to hunt some nazis to cool off from the disappointment of a movie). She heard somebody knocking at the door, she asked if it was me knocking upstairs (which it wasn't), but when she turned around, she saw a male in my backyard and jumping over my rear fence, leaving the property. I called the local police (I don't live where I work) and checked the immediate area my self. Didn't see anything.

Last night while coming home, we observed someone walking in the neighborhood who the fiance said was wearing the same type and color clothing as the person from the previous night. By the time I pulled into my driveway (was not about to talk to this guy with the fiance and nephew in the car), he was no longer to be found. Then the fiance wakes me up later that night to say someone was banging on a window. I checked the area, nothing.

Right, so I said all of that to say this. It makes me nervous that she can't manipulate the slide every time on her Shield or any semiauto for that matter, whether its her small hands or she is too weak, etc. I was thinking about picking up a revolver for her to use but I don't have experience at all with revolvers. I know the very basics, loading/unloading, but not much about what to look for as far as brands or models or caliber.

Should I look for a revolver or is there something I can do with an aftermarket spring for the Shield? She's too small to safely handle the shotgun or even the AR.

Sorry for the long post. She currently has her Shield loaded at her bedside, but I'm still worried that she may have to defend her life and my nephew's life with a gun that she can't safely manipulate.
 
Its good if you can go to an indoor range that will let her try shooting them.
That,IMO,is the best way to find "Her" gun.

I'll also suggest that as long as this guy is an issue,she wear it on her person,in a holster,hot.,along with spending some time at that range training.

He might decide knocking is not working out.
Some kind of security cam with good resolution might get you an ID.
 
Revolver sounds like the answer, but for an HD pistol, you only need to rack the slide the first time. Not reliable? Get a different gun.
 
A different gun might work better for her, I don't buy in to the "stiff spring" theory on firearms. You should be able to work your preferred weapon without issue from the get-go. Or she could keep it cocked and locked with the safety engaged, if she is comfortable with that. Revolvers are pretty straight forward, I would make sure she could use the "double action" function. The trigger pull is usually a bit heavier than using it by cocking the hammer as a single action function. In reality a person does not have the luxury of time to manipulate a firearm in their comfort zone, so keep it simple. The "perp" seems to have the luxury of casing your house and patterns though. Also, light up your property at night. Find those dark areas and light them up, that gives you a buffer zone while you navigate your house with your interior lights off.
 
Grab a used S&W Model-19 and load it with 38Sp+P.
Most important, get her some shoot/don't-shoot training education/training
 
Thanks everyone for the quick responses! Security cameras are already in the works but thank you for the suggestion. As far as lights are concerned, I always have my front porch, garage, and rear porch lights on at night and this joker is still poking around. But more lights never hurt.

As far as her training is concerned. We discuss shoot/no shoot scenarios, especially lately and get to the range pretty often to shoot.

And as most have said, I wouldn't feel comfortable if I couldn't manipulate a SD/HD firearm, hence why I was reaching out for options about her. We've been to many a gun stores, which is how she picked out the Shield. Honestly I was more worried about how the gun feels in her hand (as she can barely reach the trigger on some full size handguns) rather than focus on whether she can manipulate the slide.

I will check out the CCP and see if that is easier for her to manipulate. Thank you.

Maybe santa will bring some dumbells and hand grips to get her strength up...
 
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Technique may help.I have an M+P 9C...essentially a double stack Shield.
I do a "Hand over the top of the slide" thing rather than pinching the rear of the slide.

I wonder if PAX would have anything to offer.
 
Before getting cameras and a new gun, I'd be getting a good dog, reinforcing door and window locks, then install motion sensor lights. In the meantime, go to a gun rental t=range and let her try as many as possible
 
It could be that she just needs a little instruction on how to best operate the slide. Pax is one of the moderators here, and has a website that offers tips for self-defense to women. The Cornered Cat is the name. She teaches a push/pull technique that makes racking a slide easier. Good technique may solve the problem.

While that may work long-term, it sounds like you need something now. I'm not a big fan of revolvers for personal defense from two legged preditors, but this is a spot where that might be a good option for now. It sounds like this is a home defense situation. If carry isn't a requirement a semi-automatic carbine is also an option.

Letting her find what she is comfortable with is best option. Good luck.
 
1) big loud dog

2) 38 or 32 magnum revolver(s)

3) Did I mention the dog?


I don't worry about my wife and daughter when I am gone. They can both handle a 32 magnum revolver with ease, and we have two large dogs who bark like crazy at everything.
 
Uncle Ed and Wishoot. I agree, I'm hoping its either
1. kids being kids because I'm LEO or
2. they are just cutting through my backyard to get to the houses on the other side, but why knock and do it?

That is what I'm hoping it is and that it doesn't turn into a burglary/home invasion/SD situation. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst I guess

As for the dog. I have a dog. A 65lbs pitbull... except he's deaf and will more than likely try to be a burglar's friend than attack them. Fiance does want a dog, so that may be another option
 
If it's just for HD, maybe go to a full size gun? They are sometimes easier
to manipulate. My wife is tiny, with arthritis in her hands. She has no problem
with a M&P Pro and a couple of 9mm 1911's. Revolvers and CZ DA/SA not so well.
On the harder to rack guns she grabs the slide hand-over-top and "punches" the
grip forward. Easier for her than pulling the slide back.

Mossberg makes some .410 pump shotguns that are designed/marketed for home defense.
 
slide rack

My wife had similar issues with my Hi-Power and 1911.

After trying many handguns she settled on a Walther PK380 which can be kept with a round in the chamber (loaded chamber is apparent) with or without safety on, used either single or double action and who's slide is quite easy to retract.
 
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