Sig P365

Sorry, "no other QUALITY pistol on the market".

The P11 was remarkable at the time but the quality was never there. I actually had one of the first .40 S&W conversion kits. It promptly broke the pistol.

There is a reason why Kel-tec and SCCY are not included in most serious discussions about self defense handguns, they are at best 2nd tier. If you can't afford any thing better, they may do the job but you are accepting a compromise in quality.
 
True they certainly don't have the fit and finish, but my experience has actually been better with the p11 than with the 365.
 
l.cutler said:
True they certainly don't have the fit and finish, but my experience has actually been better with the p11 than with the 365.
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I'm one of the fortunate many that has had nothing but exceptional performance out of my P365, it's IWB right now lounging around the house.
 
I'll give you $365 plus shipping:D;)

I shot one once. It had a nice trigger. Was easy to shoot well. Has night sights. Large capacity for its size.

Seriously. If it's not your cup of tea, someone here will buy it from you. It should be me of course... Ya know, since I've made the *best* offer! :)
 
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Plus for a gun so small, the ergos are great, it's very shootable with a good trigger and great sights.
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That was the huge selling point for me. Pocket pistols are limited by the engineering of being a pocket pistol that the ergos are horrible when compared to a full sized combat pistol. Many of them have sights that are designed for Muzzle contact or extreme close quarters and are horrible for normal pistol distances.

The single stacks offer revolver capacity and concealability without revolver reliability. The double stacks do not offer enough of a concealability advantage over the H&K.

To get the concealability I wanted forced me to consider single stack .380's.

The only pistol I found with the concealability I wanted with a combat capability comparable to my H&K was the SIG P365.

It allows me to have the concealability of a pocket pistol with the ability to engage multiple targets, with multiple rounds, at combat distance, without reloading.
 
I test drove a P365 alongside my Walther PPS-M2 and both of these guns shot really well, but I can’t really say that one was better than the other. So I’ll keep what I have, for now at least.
 
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Good pistol only limited by its capacity to engage multiple targets without a magazine reload.
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Fair enough; if one of your evaluation criteria for an EDC pistol is magazine capacity from a single loaded magazine without a spare, then the P365 with 10 or 12 round capacity is a better choice than the 8 round magazines I typically carry with my Walther PPS-M2.

If however you practice tactical mag reloads with a spare mag, then it doesn’t really matter much.
 
JDBerg said:
Fair enough; if one of your evaluation criteria for an EDC pistol is magazine capacity from a single loaded magazine without a spare, then the P365 with 10 or 12 round capacity is a better choice than the 8 round magazines I typically carry with my Walther PPS-M2.

If however you practice tactical mag reloads with a spare mag, then it doesn’t really matter much.
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I think there's definitely value in practicing tactical reloads. That said, I'd rather not have to reload as often and have more capacity in the first place. That to me is a definite edge for the P365. It's part of the reason the smallest pistol I carry is a G26. That said I think the PPS is a very nice pistol.

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If however you practice tactical mag reloads with a spare mag,
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Kudos to you for practicing that. No matter what you choose to carry...train with it and develop good muscle memory.

I can’t really say that one was better than the other.
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I absolutely agree. These are tools. Carry the tool that gets the job done for you. I had a specific set of requirements and just happens that SIG made the tool that met them for me.

The fact that you train with it is much more important (within reason) than the tool.
 
@DavidSog, Thank you for what I consider the most persuavise argument for why to keep it.

"To get the concealability I wanted forced me to consider single stack .380's.

The only pistol I found with the concealability I wanted with a combat capability comparable to my H&K was the SIG P365. "

Unfortunately you also ge tthe sarcasm award.

"Yep!! Friend of mines been waiting a month for his name to make it to the top of the list to get one.

BUT.....you can buy the OP's here, LMAO. "

I guess the net sum is exactly what I paid for.

Thanks i guess.
 
Sadly, the problems associated with the first few evolutions of that pistol have left me feeling uncomfortable with the weapon and even sig quite frankly even though I would really like to like it.
 
With any product whether it's the Sig P365 or the Plymouth PT Cruiser that is so wildly popular that there is a massive backlog of unfilled orders and people are wanting one so badly they paying above MSRP, only fools or idiots rush to buy these products. Sig has already had one "voluntary upgrade" with the P365. Any company who renames a safety recall a "voluntary upgrade" has just shown me their true colors. Whatever the color of lagalese sleaze is, that's their true color. I have numerous smaller guns than the P365 that I am just as comfortable with. Some of them are .25 ACP, some are .22LR, some are 9x19, some are 32ACP, some are .380 ACP, and some are .45 ACP or .40 S&W. I'd sooner buy a new Sig P239 over the P365. The Sig P239 is no longer in production, and it feels fabulous in the hand. As for the P365. I can wait a couple of years for the demand to wane, or I can wait longer. I am never fond of any gun I have to box up and ship back to the manufacturer for "voluntary upgrades". QC slip ups, are lower on the list than design deficiencies, but I somehow admire a company who admits, "We may have screwed up on your particular gun, so let us fix it or replace it for you at no cost". And with that Smith & Wesson is now dead to me. I carry a Glock 43, with Ameriglow tritium/fiber optic sights, which other than for that and a slide release that actually works as a slide release, is a dead stock Glock. Even Glock has had their share of "voluntary upgrades". Remember: "The baby Browning in your pocket beats the MP5 you left at home in the baby's crib any day."
 
SIG has not offered a "voluntary upgrade" for the P365. That was offered for the P320 as a result of a drop-fire liability.

SIG has made numerous "rolling changes" to the P365 since its introduction, however, including a complete redesign of the recoil spring assembly and the striker and striker spring. But free upgrades of these parts have not been offered to owners of P365 pistols that were manufactured with the original designs.
 
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I got to shoot a friends 365 and found it too small for my hands, also discovered the same with the G43.

I'll be sticking with the Shield for now.
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I did a review that a few friends of mine at my club did running a 1,000 rds. Bottom line for us was that it is a very nice gun, but NOT for everyone. You should really test ride before shooting. The small space between the grip and receiver for many with larger hands was not acceptable. . Very easy to ride the slide. I personally would never be able to shoot this gun with gloves on. Also did not like the hulky take down lever which would or could be problematicMy little Pico has much more room for a better grip. As far as reliability, it did fine. A little snappy, similar to the Ruger LC9S but not quite as much muzzle flip.
One of the group, a female liked the gun and bought one.
 
I've had a few opportunities to shoot a P365. On its own merit, I found it to be a pretty nice gun, although a bit small for me (and I don't have large hands). I agree with the statement above that it would be hard to manipulate and control with gloves on.

While it seems like a perfectly capable firearm, if I take the enhanced capacity out of the equation, I have to say that I like other single stacks like the Shield and PPS M2 better than I like the P365. I find them to be easier to hold and control. I personally think that if you take the capacity advantage out of it, the P365 is just another single-stack 9 that's not especially remarkable. That's not a knock on it -- the market is so crowded that it's hard to stand apart. If capacity were my top priority, the P365 would have to be the winner hands-down. If comfort, "shootability" and other factors were higher, it would not be my first choice. And, as it happens, it isn't. I'm sticking to my PPS M2, and find the 8+1 magazine to be more than adequate for that feeling of "enough gun."
 
In case you decide to sell, here is some hype for you. Guns & Ammo has declared it "Handgun of the Year".
 
I was able to snag one a week or so ago; (haven't had the chance to shoot it yet, but have rented one); the trigger is MUCH nicer than a Glock, as smooth as a Kahr, but nowhere near as long a pull. I am looking forward to it becoming my primary EDC
 
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