Old Dragoon
New member
I went to my local indoor range and shot both '58's yesterday. I am perplexed a bit. The first one doesn't shoot as well as the new one, but not that far off. The new one groups everyting I fed it with the exception of the .451 Round ball in 44 Rem Mag cases. Neither grouped this one well but the new gun was still better.
Now the perplexing thing.
I took some of my 44 Colt Bear Creek moly lubed .439 heeled bullet over 25 grns 3FG. These bullets pass thru the bbls with just a hint of land and no groove marks at all, not a fall thru, but a very light push, as in practically none.
The perplexing thing.
The first five out of the new gun were just below the bull,(where I was holding.) all touching, two hand hold, elbows rest. the next five were all in the black touching across the ten ring(Where I held), this at 15 yards. The next ten were the same. I tried the .248 outside lubed over 30 Grn 2 FG and they were almost the same except not touching. The round ball didn't group as well but still tolerable. The target was an official 25YD. timed and rapid fire pistol target.
I know the bullets expand under pressure when fired, but the .439 Bear Creek blew me away. with the accuracy at 15 yards. The new gun appears to fire point of aim with anything I fed it. The roundball being the worst but still effective.
The first gun still needs some time to work out what it will shoot. the groups with it are not as good as the new one.
BTW I shot lapped the new gun the first two shots with the .451 outside lubed 44 Rem Loads.
I also shot both with the BP cylinders .451 ball over 40 grn.s both shot these loads pretty well. The new gun shoots these the same as the other cartridges.
The first gun groups this load better than the cartridges.
I guess bottom line the new gun shoots and groups anything I fed it. The first gun still needs to find what it likes the best. Guess I know which is my favorite of the two.
Now the perplexing thing.
I took some of my 44 Colt Bear Creek moly lubed .439 heeled bullet over 25 grns 3FG. These bullets pass thru the bbls with just a hint of land and no groove marks at all, not a fall thru, but a very light push, as in practically none.
The perplexing thing.
The first five out of the new gun were just below the bull,(where I was holding.) all touching, two hand hold, elbows rest. the next five were all in the black touching across the ten ring(Where I held), this at 15 yards. The next ten were the same. I tried the .248 outside lubed over 30 Grn 2 FG and they were almost the same except not touching. The round ball didn't group as well but still tolerable. The target was an official 25YD. timed and rapid fire pistol target.
I know the bullets expand under pressure when fired, but the .439 Bear Creek blew me away. with the accuracy at 15 yards. The new gun appears to fire point of aim with anything I fed it. The roundball being the worst but still effective.
The first gun still needs some time to work out what it will shoot. the groups with it are not as good as the new one.
BTW I shot lapped the new gun the first two shots with the .451 outside lubed 44 Rem Loads.
I also shot both with the BP cylinders .451 ball over 40 grn.s both shot these loads pretty well. The new gun shoots these the same as the other cartridges.
The first gun groups this load better than the cartridges.
I guess bottom line the new gun shoots and groups anything I fed it. The first gun still needs to find what it likes the best. Guess I know which is my favorite of the two.