this thread has taken a few turns... i've been out of the loop so i just heard about this a few hours ago when it came through on a mailing list... anyway, i hope san fran's rivaling sweet home chicago on murders in coming years as there too will only the criminals be armed. i think it's a solid case study to make, and it's not like i'll particularly miss anyone from that town that gets plugged no offense to anyone who might know the 4 or 5 remaining decent people holding out in that town.