Rossi Ranch Hand

Here are a couple of tease pics of the new scabbard I am having made for the RH.
When I received it, all was good except the opening was too wide. It allowed the RH to sit too far into the scabbard, thus there was no good grip for a one hand draw off the back.
And, it also allowed the RH to fall below the hammer retention strap. This would allow the RH to "jump" around in the scabbard, with hard jolts, or when removing backpack and laying it down.
So, it is now back to the maker to get fixed, and I also commissioned a belt with the same stamping and color. Removable buckle.
I am waiting for it now and when I get it, I will post some pics.
Here is a pic showing the backpack placement. The scabbard will ride here.

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And here is the RH in the scabbard before I sent it back. Notice that I have removed 1 1/2" off the stock, refinished it with Tung oil, and put on a Nickle Silver butt plate to replace the stock black one.
When I post a new thread on this, I will show MANY new mods to the RH, and how everything fits. Three different size straps and a belt with the scabbard (with border stamping and initials embossed on both sides) cost $200.00. Not bad, I think.

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Cool Gun

Yea, I like the thing myself. I do more collecting then shooting and its more r less a great conversation piece. I haven’t went out and bought one yet though. Henry also came out with one and it looks more like McQueen’s as it has an octagon barrel. It is a good bit more $ though. I had a chance to see the real one from the show some years back at the NRA museum in Northern Va. That was a fun display to see they had many of Hollywood’s firearms on display. I guess it was around 2001-2002??? Anyway seems like a fun gun. I like things like that...I have a matching set of Ruger Blackhawk .44 mag 7.5" in a beautiful custom double leather cowboy holster rig, just a play-toy for me too show off when company comes over and appreciate a fine firearm.;)
 
Nice rig!

Thats a really nice rig, I like it a lot! I'll be curious to see the finished product. Makes me want one more now...It would go great with my other Rugers and Winchesters for a home display.
 
Master Blaster 2
That is the 1st time I have seen that Henry 22.
I will have to do some research on it.
shawn .223
I will start another thread on this when I get everything together. Will have a bunch of pics, too.
8shot357
HUH?
 
Shawn.223 said
Henry also came out with one and it looks more like McQueen’s as it has an octagon barrel. It is a good bit more $ though

Not all variants of McQueen's were octagonal, it makes it inordinately heavy and it's not nearly the same anyway - not Win 92 based. If spending as much as $900, I'd much rather get the Chiappa (Legacy/LSI) variant.
http://www.legacysports.com/products/puma_BH-M87.html
On a lesser budget, the Rossi of course. JMHO.
 
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rossi mares leg poopy !!!

from what I understand these are selling like ice water in hell, I'm trying to get a Rossi 357\38 big loop 16" carbine and was told by the dealer\distributor that because of the mares leg all lever action round barrels are being turned into the mares leg , either converted at the factory before listing production type or being manufactued in place of , I can't even get a 20" 357\38 anytime soon so I'm on an indefinate waiting list :( poopy !! oh I already said that :p
 
IMO Rossi Ranch Hand Review

Rossi R92RH Ranch Hand "Mares Leg" Review
After much shopping around at local dealers, no one had one in stock or had seen one available as of July 2011. I found this strange since there are so many reviews on line. Next I searched about a dozen on line gun sales sites and again no one had stock. Finally I found one on Gun Broker in 44 Remington Magnum priced at $425, plus $30 shipping. I used a local FFL for transfer adding another $25 for a total price of $480. I waited 6 days to receive it and do the transfer.
First thing out of the box I noticed how dull and washed out the stock finish was compared to the lustrous looking finish on Rossi's website. Next issue was the stock was cracked at the top rear where the butt plate screws into the stock. Since the grain was in such a way that the tip of the stock would eventually crack off completely; this was not acceptable. I cannot believe the dealer on Gun Broker did not notice this and say something about it. Perhaps that is why it was $75 cheaper than other dealers. I called Rossi, and they said they would warranty it by sending a Fedex pick up for the whole gun. I was reluctant to give them the whole gun just for the stock, so I said I would send them just the stocks. They replied they would not pay for shipping unless the whole gun was returned by Fedex. I paid $8.75 for shipping the fore end and butt stocks back to them hoping that they would actually match the grain and color. I have yet to see it returned.
Next, I disassembled the gun to find it was filled with black sand like grit, and rust starting to form on the magazine tube, hammer spring pivot and rod, and the lower tang. I spent nearly an hour cleaning the gun. Also, when disassembling the gun the cartridge guide screws and feed ramp screws where so loose, they would have fallen out if I had not cleaned and inspected it first.
After reassembly, I fed dummy rounds (snap caps) into the tube. The gate was so tight that I could hardly get the rounds into the magazine tube. I had to loosen the screw just to get it to feed. I cycled the lever and bolt and fed the first round into the breach. Pulling the trigger was not too bad but had some gritty feel to it. The measured pull was 3 1/2 lbs. I cycled the slide extracting the round and loading the next no problem. This time I gently squeezed the trigger and the hammer stopped at half cock position. It did not fall completely and if a live round had been loaded it would not have fired. I continued this procedure for all six dummy rounds. As the last round extracting from the breach, it failed to eject from the gun. Not having a round in the floor feeding up the ramp feed, the round did a stove pipe and sat in the magazine well. Repeat of the process produced the same issues including the hammer stopping on half cock unless the trigger was pulled sharply and held back to full stop.
I then completely disassembled the gun and did the recommended stoning, buffing and slicking of the parts as outlined by so many reviews. I am not new to this, I do many trigger jobs and slicking on 1911s, and single and double action revolvers as well as other lever action rifles. I reassembled and tested with dummy rounds. Just working the parts and polishing them, I was able to bring the trigger down to a smooth and reasonable 2 1/2 lbs with no spring changes, a reduction of 1 lb from the first test.
I ordered the Lee Gunsmithing Slick Spring kit and installed them in steps it according to the instructions. I found the extractor spring to be nearly impossible to install since it is so much longer than the original. It is supposed to be lighter than the original, but I did not find this to be true. The rounds ejected even harder with the Lee spring. Next, I replaced the trigger spring from the flat factory to the wire Lee Spring. Upon testing at this point, the trigger failed to lock up to the hammer sear properly and was so light, it was not safe. Yes, it was installed with the curvature down as instructed. I removed it and replaced the factory.
Next was the hammer spring, the same problem was found. It did not have sufficient force to cycle the hammer and caused the half cock problem to be more prevalent.
I replaced the lever lock up spring and found no noticeable difference in the function. In my opinion, the Slick Spring kit is a complete waste of money. If you simply take the time to clean the gun properly and dress and polish the required parts, you can make this gun function safely and just fine.
Overall, I was excited to get the gun and shoot it. It is an esthetically cool gun and brings attention at the range. It is just plain fun to shoot. That being said, it has its faults in poor workmanship and poor wood to metal match up. Most of these problems can be corrected if you know what you are doing, but for the average Joe shooter, it probably is not desirable to need to do so much work to get a NIB gun to function properly.
 
RogueBull
When I got my RH, I cleaned and oiled it before I fired it.
The action has worked great since then.
Two things were not up to my standards.
One, like you said, the loading gate was STIFF.
Two, the ejector sent the rounds out 10-12 feet, and the action was stiff at the point of ejection. Ejection spring was just too strong.
So, I went over to Steves Gunz and got his tune up kit. A DVD and a new ejector spring. While I was there, I got the steel magazine follower to replace the yellow plastic one. I also purchased the peep site that replaces the bolt safety ( I was going to replace the safety with the plug he has, but the peep sight intrigued me. It actually works very well). I also bought a dovetail slug to replace the rear sight ramp.
I think I paid 113.00 with shipping for it all.
After I went through the gun and did the tune up (I didn't cut the hammer spring, and the tube mag spring on the RH shouldn't be cut in my opinion), the action works GREAT, the ejection is waaaay better than stock. Trigger is lighter due to grinding down the spring, ground down the loading gate spring and now it feeds smooth. Just turned the RH into a nice smooth action all around.
I did not have any black grit, cracks or other defects.
I did not like the stock finish, so I just sanded it down and put several coats of Tung oil on it. Way better now. I also cut the stock 1 1/2" and put on a Nickle Silver butt plate. Nickle Silver also has a touch of Copper and the color is a mild yellow compared to Stainless.
I am thinking seriously about having the barrel cut to 10", but to do that, I would lose one round in capacity. I am still thinking.
I also want to put on a wedge loop like Randall's. Steve (Steve gunz) has the 3/4 loop in blue or stainless for 110.00. But he wants 250 to convert one to the wedge. OUCH! I am hoping to find someone local to do it for me . Then just case harden the loop instead of bluing it. Heating to change the loop will de-temper the steel, so it will need to be re-hardened, So might as well get it case hardened. Probably 150-200 to get it done, but won't have to buy a new loop. Maybe.
Anyway, sorry to hear about your problems with the RH. I can't say if it's representative of the RH or not as I have handled only one. Mine. And it turned out to be a wonderful piece.
Even at stock, cleaned and oiled, it wasn't bad at all.
 
If you check Wanted dead or Alive there were 2 ML's used in the series. One like the Rossi RH (large loop) and then one with the smaller lever loop and hex barrel.
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Got mine last year when they 1st came out for $425. Did the tune up. Couldn't be happier with my 45C Ranch Hand. Even got mine off Gun Broker.
Also bought the TV series on DVD!!
 
Master Blaster 2
I got my 44mag RH off of Gunbroker, too. About 480.00 after shipping and FFL fee(20). I pre-ordered in August, took until January 2011 to get it.
I got the complete series on a DVD set, too! I think 5 or 7 Seasons in all. Got it in September, 2010.All I know is that I was "Josh Randall'd" out at the end, LOL.
Man, I wish I had one of those wedge shaped finger loops!
I WILL have in the next year, one way or another.
 
Rossi RH scabbard

Hello RoBoTech,
Thanks for the reply on the Rossi RH. I does work fine now and I like the weapon if not just for the cool factor. You never did say where you found the custom scabbard. Looks nice, I would be interested in purchasing one. Do you have contac info. I have looked at the Cochise Leather version, it is pretty nice as well and I may just take the leap and pay the price.
RogueBull at gmail
 
As a matter of fact, the maker has finally finished the TEMPLATE. He has had heart problems and has just recently been healthy enough to finish the work.
He just sent me an email today that he shipped the template to me for final fitting.
When I have done that, he will make a NEW scabbard for no extra cost. I believe he is going to make several for sale after we finish.
He also said he was sending me a custom made knife (apparently, he makes knives, too) for my patience. It has been 7 months since we started this project.
So, please sit tight, I should have the template scabbard by mid week next week. And then I'll have my final one, hopefully, with in two weeks of that.
When he contacts me with the final info this weekend, I will ask him if he wants me to hand out his contact info. I am sure he will want to.
After I get the new scabbard (and belt), I will post pics of the whole system so everyone can take a look.
 
Scabbard maker

My leather smith said that it was OK to post his contact info.
If anyone is interested in this scabbard, send me a PM. I will check everyday for a few weeks.
I just sent off the final fit scabbard today, and hopefully I will have the 1st scabbard produced by him within two weeks.
He has already made my belt, and a longer strap to tie down the scabbard to my thigh (I body build and have BIG thighs). The two straps he made earlier was 22 inches. fine to strap this to a pack, saddle, or SUV frame, but my thigh, right above the knee, needed a 27"" so he made another one for free. So make sure you let him know the size of strap if you plan to wear this on a belt. And if you do, you will need to strap it down as it will flop around too much if you don't.
When I get the system, I will do another thread on the scabbard and the mods I made to the RH
Here is a pic of the new peep site. Much more to come.
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rossi ranch hand holster

1st this is info only. 2nd my background. loved the show as a kid and had several of the mattel toy guns, work in fabrication all my life and i'm cheap, i mean thrifty. in the nintys my wife was into antiques and i saw several old mares leigs toy for more then i would spend so i formulated a plan to make my own. to do this i used a daisy lever action 94, which is the shorter gun pictured. i just wanted something to hang on the wall. after semi completing it i decided to make a holster for it. i bought a belt off of ebay, cut the flat leather out of my old weight lifting belt and use a electic conduit strap (which i cut and reformed then covered with duct tape and electical shrink tape) a peice of 1/8 brass from a bathtub drain kit and some rivits. i probably have less then $30 in this and i figured some of you might want to make 1 to hang your rossi on. ishould have made the flat part longer but keep in mind i made the short gun several yrs ago.
 

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rossi ranch hand holster

anyway, after seeing that rossi came up with this gun i had to have 1. although it is short for the rossi the holster works and i have the rossi in the safe and the mattel on the wall, lol. i do think the rossi would make a good front door gun, above the door frame on gun hangers, you could grap it if needed when answering the door to hit someone across the face with if they tried to push their way in. afterall i think randle hit more people with it then he shot!!! dave
 
Update on Rossi RH review and new scabbard

Rossi R92RH Ranch Hand "Mares Leg" Review

Rossi R92RH Ranch Hand "Mares Leg" Review
After much shopping around at local dealers, no one had one in stock or had seen one available as of July 2011. I found this strange since there are so many reviews on line. Next I searched about a dozen on line gun sales sites and again no one had stock. Finally I found one on Gun Broker in 44 Remington Magnum priced at $425, plus $30 shipping. I used a local FFL for transfer adding another $25 for a total price of $480. I waited 6 days to receive it and do the transfer.
First thing out of the box I noticed how dull and washed out the stock finish was compared to the lustrous looking finish on Rossi's website. Next issue was the stock was cracked at the top rear where the butt plate screws into the stock. Since the grain was in such a way that the tip of the stock would eventually crack off completely; this was not acceptable. I cannot believe the dealer on Gun Broker did not notice this and say something about it. Perhaps that is why it was $75 cheaper than other dealers. I called Rossi, and they said they would warranty it by sending a Fedex pick up for the whole gun. I was reluctant to give them the whole gun just for the stock, so I said I would send them just the stocks. They replied they would not pay for shipping unless the whole gun was returned by Fedex. I paid $8.75 for shipping the fore end and butt stocks back to them hoping that they would actually match the grain and color. (Update: After six weeks, I finally received the replacement stock Neither one of them were even close in match so I decided to refinish them myself. I took about an hour of custom fitting the forend to get it to fit right. They are not made to fit universally. Now I know why the wood to metal fit is so poor.)
Next, I disassembled the gun to find it was filled with black sand like grit, and rust starting to form on the magazine tube, hammer spring pivot and rod, and the lower tang. I spent nearly an hour cleaning the gun. Also, when disassembling the gun the cartridge guide screws and feed ramp screws where so loose, they would have fallen out if I had not cleaned and inspected it first.
After reassembly, I fed dummy rounds (snap caps) into the tube. The gate was so tight that I could hardly get the rounds into the magazine tube. I had to loosen the screw just to get it to feed. I cycled the lever and bolt and fed the first round into the breach. Pulling the trigger was not too bad but had some gritty feel to it. The measured pull was 3 1/2 lbs. I cycled the slide extracting the round and loading the next no problem. This time I gently squeezed the trigger and the hammer stopped at half cock position. It did not fall completely and if a live round had been loaded it would not have fired. I continued this procedure for all six dummy rounds. As the last round extracting from the breach, it failed to eject from the gun. Not having a round in the floor feeding up the ramp feed, the round did a stove pipe and sat in the magazine well. Repeat of the process produced the same issues including the hammer stopping on half cock unless the trigger was pulled sharply and held back to full stop. This continues to be a problem unless you pull the trigger hard and hold it down to full travel to prevent the sear from locking into the half cock groove.
I then completely disassembled the gun and did the recommended stoning, buffing and slicking of the parts as outlined by so many reviews. I am not new to this, I do many trigger jobs and slicking on 1911s, and single and double action revolvers as well as other lever action rifles. I reassembled and tested with dummy rounds. Just working the parts and polishing them, I was able to bring the trigger down to a smooth and reasonable 2 1/2 lbs with no spring changes, a reduction of 1 lb from the first test.
I ordered the Lee Gunsmithing Slick Spring kit and installed them in steps it according to the instructions. I found the extractor spring to be nearly impossible to install since it is so much longer than the original. It is supposed to be lighter than the original, but I did not find this to be true. The rounds ejected even harder with the Lee spring. Next, I replaced the trigger spring from the flat factory to the wire Lee Spring. Upon testing at this point, the trigger failed to lock up to the hammer sear properly and was so light, it was not safe. Yes, it was installed with the curvature down as instructed. I removed it and replaced the factory.
Next was the hammer spring, the same problem was found. It did not have sufficient force to cycle the hammer and caused the half cock problem to be more prevalent.
I replaced the lever lock up spring and found no noticeable difference in the function. In my opinion, the Slick Spring kit is a complete waste of money. If you simply take the time to clean the gun properly and dress and polish the required parts, you can make this gun function safely and just fine.
The very last thing I did was order a peep sight from Steve's Gunz to replace the useless safety. Upon fitting it per instructions I found again a very poor wobbly fit. Steve from Steve's Gunz said it was Rossi's fault because they do not hold specs in drilling the hole for the safety. I was able to rotate the ferrule bushing on the peep sight and file a smaller groove for the retaining pin to fit tightly into. This did fix the problem of the wobbling peep sight. However, another problem is that the peep sight hole is so small that it is almost impossible to see the front sight in any but the brightest light. You could remove the threaded insert from the peep sight post and have a bigger hole or I just may drill out the insert slightly larger to give a better view without getting too big. Also the dove tail blank he sells to fill the slot from the removed ramp sight was so loose it fell out when the gun was rotated sideways. I had to put considerable shims under it to fix this problem. Per Steve's Gunz, again it was Rossi's lack of tolerance to specifications. He suggested I peen the metal from around the dove tail groove to fix the problem, but I was not keen to make the gun fit an aftermarket part that would prevent later installation of the original part. The shims were a better option and retain the original condition of the gun. I did replace the plastic magazine follower with a stainless steel follower, it works fine.
Overall, I was excited to get the gun and shoot it. It is an esthetically cool gun and brings attention at the range. It is just plain fun to shoot. That being said, it has its faults in poor workmanship and poor wood to metal match up. Most of these problems can be corrected if you know what you are doing, but for the average Joe shooter, it probably is not desirable to need to do so much work to get a NIB gun to function properly. I refinished the stock using Danish Oil and wet sanding ten coats in with 600 grit wet sand paper. I finished off with three coats of sprayed polyurethane satin finish. Some leather shoe laces made a nice finish to dress out the loop handle.
After much debate on a holster or scabbard, I found Cochise Leather out of Arizona. He has very nice leather at more than reasonable prices ($165) compared to the other stuff out there. I ordered online and spoke to David LaFlair in person (he returned my call the same day), it was delivered two weeks later. A very nice and functional piece of leather. I highly recommend David LaFlair and Cochise Leather products. Pictures below.
 

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