Revolver vs Auto for Civilian defensive use

Revolvers or autos, which is best for civilian defensive use?


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Once again I agree with LT.

I like both weapons and feel that either one of them will serve you well if you train with that particular weapon. I will never agree to someone saying I would be better off with a revolver when I have been training with autoloaders. It's just not going to happen sorry. I have a decent amount of training with weapons and I know what will work best for someone is what they spend most of there time with. My every day carry right now is a little PM9 and when I feel I need something bigger I grab my Glock 23. Those are what I put countless rounds down range with so those are what I'm use to. I really don't see the point of the debate other than to try to say one weapon is worse then the other which I'll never agree to. You can have this thread open for another 25 years so I can double my experience with weapons and I still will not agree. Both setups are great and have worked throughout history so this is silly to me. Don't get me wrong I would feel very well armed with a revolver. But I would feel even better with one of my own weapons in my hand.
 
Lord Tio...

I agree that either will probably work as well as the other.
I prefaced my revolver comment with "IN MY OPINION"

In all honesty... I dont care about the poll. I care about whats worked for me in the past, and what I expect will work for me in the future. I'm only representing me. My Opinion. Am I a fan boy?... I guess I am. The way cancer survivors are fan's of chemo, or the way Pilots are fan's of parachutes. It's something you never want to need... But nice to know it's there just in case. Much of my experience has been revolvers... They work for me. Thats my only point. I carry Auto's too, but I know revolvers.

Thats all... nothing against anyone else's opinion... nothing against anyone else's experiences....
 
Reliability and power are IMHO moot points as only a fool would carry an unreliable gun and few people would reccommend rounds more powerful for self defense. The only real advantages are capacity for the auto and ease of use for the revolver and again IMHO these are borderline advantages. Ultimatly either will work but not equally well for everyone or for every situation.
 
While they both will work within certain parameters, seems to me, the "best" choice, is the one that will allow you to deal with as many situations as possible, not just the ones you think you might need, for whatever reason.

Shouldnt you be planning for the worst, and go from there?
 
Originally posted by teeroux
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a .460 Rowland can still be pushed out of battery while my S&W 629 cannot

629 cylinder won't turn with only slight finger pressure of someone grabbing it so whats the difference?

Well, if I'm shoving the muzzle into the abdomen of the 400lb meth-head on top of me trying to carve out my liver with a sharpened screwdriver, it makes a pretty big difference.

Originally posted by BGutzman
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Well, I've never seen a .460 Rowland available for less than $1000, the ammunition isn't particularly easy to find, and a .460 Rowland can still be pushed out of battery while my S&W 629 cannot.

Ammo is readily available from several places. Corbon, Buffalo Bore and others, plus depending on what you already own you may be able to simply by a drop in barrel.

The only .460 Rowland ammo I've ever seen in person was from a custom cartridge manufacturer at a large gun show. While it may be fairly easy to get through mail-order, I prefer to be able to get ammo from a local source if I need to. Just about every place that sells handgun ammunition stocks some sort of .44 Magnum loading, .460 Rowland not so much.

Also, while I could convert my 1911, $295 for the conversion kit is a bit pricey in my opinion.
 
I am far from an expert and I won't pretend that I know what's best for everyone, but for my tastes, I prefer to carry a revolver for my every carry and SD weapon.
 
the conversion kit is a bit pricey in my opinion.

The conversion kit is a bargin. It is worth double IMHO.

460 Rowland ammo may not be at your local firearms store but even Wilson Combat carrys it and its becoming available at more and more places on line all the time. In this day of technology walking to the shelf and buying it is nice but not really necessary.

If you like a revolver great, use it. Just dont expect that everyone is going to agree with you that it is a better weapon for self defense. If might be equal or it could just be that it is different.

If semi autos were so unreliable the military and police would be using revolvers as a primary weapon and the fact is for the most part thats simply untrue. Sure a department here or there might use revolvers and many departments may allow it as a choice but you really dont see it out on the street that often.

A quality semi auto is hardly a liability and if you cant learn to use a semi auto then you probably have no business handling any firearm. Also although maybe its true that you can reload a revolver faster, I sincerely doubt that is the case for the average revolver carrier. I still have my doubts... Im willing to bet in most cases even a average semi carrier reloads faster...One hole to line up instead of five or six and one button to push and the old mag drops to the floor.

When the zombie hordes get me down to pistol I will be changing mags every 13 rounds, revolvers not so much. :D But hey maybe the zombies will give you points for being old school. ;)
 
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If you like a revolver great, use it. Just dont expect that everyone is going to agree with you that it is a better weapon for self defense. If might be equal or it could just be that it is different.

I never said that a revolver was a better weapon across the board than a semi-auto, just that it's a better weapon for me.

If semi autos were so unreliable the military and police would be using revolvers as a primary weapon and the fact is for the most part thats simply untrue. Sure a department here or there might use revolvers and many depatments may allow it as a choice but you really dont see it out on the street that often.

I am neither a soldier nor a cop and my needs are different from those groups of people. A semi-auto probably is the best choice for a soldier or a cop, but a revolver is a better choice for me.

A quality semi auto is hardly a liability and if you cant learn to use a semi auto then you probably have no business handling any firearm. Also although maybe its true that you can reload a revolver faster, I sincerely doubt that is the case for the average revolver carrier. I still have my doubts... Im willing to bet in most cases even a average semi carrier reloads faster...One hole to line up instead of five or six and one button to push and the old mag drops to the floor.

I can't reload a revolver as fast as a semi-auto and never said that I could, but reload speed is pretty far down on my list of priorities when choosing a self-defense gun.

Look, if a semi-auto is the best choice for you, fine carry one. But just because its the best choice for you does not necessarily mean that it is the best choice for everyone.

I own several revolvers and semi-autos and have shot and carried both types quite a bit. I actually started out with semi-autos, but over time and careful consideration of myself and my own circumstances I've decided that a revolver is a better choice for me. As I stated in my initial post, were my circumstances significantly different from what they are currently, I might choose a semi-auto, but they're not so I don't.

Since you feel it necessary to press the issue, I will provide you with a more detailed explanation of my circumstances:

I do not live in a large urban area and, in my area, gang activity and multiple-attacker situations are all but unheard of. There is, however, a fairly prominent methamphetamine problem in my community and the surrounding area. I am also a fairly large individual at 6' 4" and roughly 300lbs and, being relatively young at 24 years old, I do not have any major health problems that would make be particularly vulnerable physically. I also live a relatively low-risk lifestyle as I do not routinely carry large sums of money or valuables, I do not wear overly flashy or expensive clothing, I do not drive a particularly expensive or flashy automobile, and I take particular pains to be polite and not provoke people unnecessarily.

I also feel that I have a fairly keen set of situational awareness skills which, throughout the course of my life, have served me well in recognizing and avoiding potentially dangerous situations and areas. The few times I have found myself in potentially dangerous situations, they have come about very quickly and allowed me very little time to react.

Because of the above information, I have concluded that my most likely attacker will be a large individual, have an altered state of mind, or both and is very unlikely to travel in a large group. I've also concluded that if I were to be attacked, it would most likely happen very quickly and at very short range.

I find a revolver to be the best choice for my individual circumstances for a variety of reasons. Because an attack is likely to occur so quickly and at such short range, a revolver is advantageous because it can be reliably fired multiple times at contact distance without malfunction and because it is less sensitive to being fired with a weak or injured hand if the circumstances require such action. Also, because of the demographic of my most likely attacker, a powerful cartridge that penetrates deeply and more readily breaks bone is advantageous.

As a personal rule, I will not rely on a handgun for self-defense unless I can fairly regularly find ammunition locally, preferably at Wal-Mart, and reliably use that ammunition if need be. Less-common cartridges like .460 Rowland are both more difficult to find and more expensive which are both factors that make keeping a good supply of ammo on hand more difficult (keeping a stock of ammo is something I learned to do after the ammo shortage of 2008-2009). While I do handload ammunition in certain calibers, I still have to have a fairly large supply of cases in order to keep any sort of stock and finding the majority of my spent cases with a semi-automatic doesn't seem to be the easiest thing to do (this is one reason that I don't shoot or carry my 10mm more often, and that cartridge is less expensive and easier to find than .460 Rowland). If I constantly have to buy new cases, then the cost savings of reloading (my main reason for doing so) is greatly diminished.

Ammunition cost and availability notwithstanding, a revolver is still a more reliable and practical handgun for my specific needs. Paying nearly $300 for a conversion to go on an already expensive 1911 when the result will not fill my needs or wants any better, and probably not as well, as the revolvers I already own makes little sense to me. If a .460 Rowland is a good fit for your lifestyle and circumstances, then by all means buy one but for me it's an answer in search of a question.
 
My wife is more confortable shooting a revolver even though she sometimes carries a semi auto. Me, I prefer semi auto but am equally comfortable with a revolver.
 
I voted for semi auto

I just feel that it is a better choice and if I had to choose between the two I would opt for the semi auto. Not that I think the revolver is a poor choice by any means. In fact I've been known to carry a snubby from time to time. But if both weapons are just as reliable, I feel that the semi auto has a slight edge over the revolver. JMO
 
BGutzman said:
A quality semi auto is hardly a liability and if you cant learn to use a semi auto then you probably have no business handling any firearm.
it certainly could be if your a 73 year old woman and have artheritis so bad that racking the slide of an auto is nearly impossible.

AK103K said:
Shouldnt you be planning for the worst, and go from there?
so do you wear body armor and drive an armored car?
Have you got your tin foil hat on?
BGutzman said:
When the zombie hordes get me down to pistol I will be changing mags every 13 rounds, revolvers not so much. But hey maybe the zombies will give you points for being old school.
Ok but don't come crying to me when the hordes get to you cause you only had 4-5 13 round mags and had to stop to reload them from a box.For the price of one of your mags I bought 100 moon clips so I'd have 600 rounds ready to go for the zombie apocalypse. you call yourself prepared lol
 
so do you wear body armor and drive an armored car?
Actually, I do wear a vest on occasion, depending on where I am and what Im doing.

No armored car though. Yet. :)


Have you got your tin foil hat on?
Always! Need to ward off the mouse gun mentality thats now running rampant with the Dockers crowd! :D
 
"It's important to match the shooter to the gun." [RetiredMajor]

Brilliant.

Too many folks carry/shoot handguns (revolvers or semi-autos) that have no karma for them.

How come you never made General?

After reading American Handgunner May-June 2011, pg 32+, (cop vs home invader, 23 shots fired, all 45 ACP, at 5-6 feet) I am of the opinion that I will ALWAYS make sure I am carrying a hi-cap semi-auto, the more ammo the better.
 
Both types have their advantages and disadvantages, but on balance, they work equally well.

Revolvers: Better reliability, safer design.

Autos: Better concealability, more capacity.
 
LordTio3

In reading it, as an objective observer, it really seems like you started this thread in order to rant about how revolvers are so much better than semi-auto handguns.

If this is what you heard from my writings, maybe a couple of "Hooked on Phonics" is in order.

I won't waste another word today.
 
"Either the cop is an awful shot or a tad trigger happy." [Dragline45]

Perp fired 9 shots from a Sig 220, one hit. Cop fired 14 shots from a Glock, 8 hits - 7 hit the perp, and another shot hit & disabled the perp's gun. Both guns were shot empty.

You would think the perp was 7 feet tall, 300 lbs with muscle on muscle on muscle.

Perp was of slight build, cop thought at first he was a juvenile. I used to be of the 5 rounds or less is needed school...no more, now I'll carry my SW99 hi-cap, everytime.
 
What works best works best FOR THE INDIVIVUAL.

Some perfer the simi-auto, others revolvers. Some shoot one type better than others to so it's an individual choice.

Deaf
 
Autoloader is the way to go IMO.



From my experience...



Most folks don't carry a reload, regardless whether they carry a revolver or a semi.

Counting upon a "one shot stop" is a recipe for disaster.

Most threats will take at several rounds before they cease to be a threat.

And the average Joe is almost certain to miss at least once when facing a threat....most likely he will miss several times.

The chance of facing more than one attacker is a very likely possibility.

Modern autoloaders, with quality ammo and quality magazines, are very reliable.

When under great stress, most shooters that I have seen are much more accurate with an auto than they are with a revolver.
 
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