Revolver capacity

numerous members given you cases which you've dismissed or sneered at. We've also given you examples of revolver failures outside SD situations. And honestly if your gun catostrophically fails in an SD or HD situation you'd probably be dead. So you are not gonna hear much about those cases unless the family releases the information or it becomes a media sensation. That goes for either autos or revolvers.

You are asking us as a resource to help you learn something then you seem disinterested in the provided examples in order to reinforce your viewpoint.

So far just one crazy watch salesman
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That's rude. He was an honest and law abiding shop owner exercising his rights as a US citizen. I'd hope if you found yourself in that situation a jury of your peers wouldn't say the same.

And Venom, the whole character assassination assumptions aren't really needed are they? That situation was more comedy than anything else when it was done, and there are many cases every day as you well know where the police aren't called in a quick and over with situation such as that.
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Hardly more then an observation imo. I fail to see how a drawing a firearm is a 'comedy situation' that wouldn't involve the police.

Revolvers are fine Semis are fine. But i'd recommend some training.
 
Cops are civilians. There is no difference other than a badge of office.
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I've posted this a number of times, and I'll say it again. There is a huge difference in what is motivating the bad guy.

Bad guys use a gun to bully civilians into submission so that they can take your stuff without resistance, for a payoff that is minimal. They do not want, nor do they expect any resistance. When they encounter it, they usually exit and look for another civilian. The intended victim is unlikley to pursue them.

When a bad guy pulls a gun on a cop, he is expecting a fight which he is willing to engage in, and is fighting for his freedom. The cop will not flee but keep coming unless he is taken out.

The OP question is similar to one I asked. "How many real cases are there where a civilian shoots an attacker, but does not halt the attack, where a more powerful round would have likley had a different outcome?" Your question is also a very good one. How many real cases are there where more rounds available would have likely had a different outcome?

I carry a 5 shot .38 snubbie. If I were an open carry cop on duty, that would be very low on my list of choices.
 
Venom, I am looking for examples, I've been given one. Hardly convincing don't you think? Now if you think being shot on multiple occasions by many different people in your shop and continuing on like usual is the definition of sanity, be my guest, but I would beg to differ. And if you've never had to draw your gun, then please don't presume to tell me what you would do or how you might feel afterward because you don't know.
 
http://5newsonline.com/2014/12/06/springdale-police-are-investigating-early-morning-robbery/

Here was an example posted on this forum. A pawn shot was held up and the people were being shot at, an elderly lady emptied her revolver, ducked behind a counter, and got lucky.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/georgia-mom-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/story?id=18164812

Here is one in my state, Georgia. The lady shot a home intruder 5 times, and told him if he moved, she would shoot him again, but she was out of ammo and bluffing. What if he had a gun and was still attacking? Or even if he didn't have a gun, but didn't retreat? The 5 shots didn't put the guy down, and I wouldn't want to rely on bluffing with an empty gun.

Now, I love a nice revolver, but don't act like 5 or 6 shots is all you'll ever need.
 
Thank you Jonathan, that's more like what I'm looking for, but again it was enough in both cases and the defenders came out unscathed.
 
Pointless.
Some dangerous assumptions here, but they're yours to make.
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You say that, but as the garyl43 pointed out, where do you stop planning for contingencies?
If you say never count on not needing a reload and so carry an extra mag, one could then say never count on one reload being enough.

There comes point where you have to say "This is what I'm prepared to carry to ensure my safety as best I can and if it's not enough, I'll just have to do my best in that situation"
 
When I carry a J frame OWB, I have a LCP in my hip pocket, and 2 magazines in my watch pocket in my wranglers.
They're about the same size as a bic lighter, which gives me 12 loaded rounds between the revolver and LCP and 12 more in the spare mag's.
I think I'm covered, with minimal weight to carry.
 
 
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Skans, you stated "627" in post #37.... now you offer the alloy framed 327 ..... it's still larger in every dimension (with the fat in the middle dimension being the most objectionable) than my auto, although 4 oz. lighter- but that exacerbates the excessive flash and bang issue of the .357 with the 2" barrel...... and negates the "more powerfull round" to a large extent- .357 out of a 2" barrel is not all that impressive ..... you've traded one feature for another, without addressing any of the other issues- it's still two rounds short, still large framed and fat in the middle, with bulky reloads, and to top it all off, costs even more than the 627 did.

There have got to be better choices for concealed carry out there than a 7" long, large framed, 2" barrelled .357 magnum revolver ..... especially for over $1300 MSRP.
 
Thugs are cowards. You pop off a round or two and they will be running away as fast as they can.
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Michael Brown turned back around
I'd prefer to have extra rounds than to assume 3-5 is plenty
 
Thugs are cowards. You pop off a round or two and they will be running away as fast as they can.
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You don't know the thugs I do or you wouldn't make that statement. Have you ever watched the news or shows like the first 48 ( actual homicide investigations)? Shootouts don't happen when a Thug becomes coward and runs.

I had a nephew that was the victim last year. He is not here to tell you this so I will: Wake up people you can't bet life on assumptions that people will run! The guys that shot him down didn't!
 
Michael Brown was also able to get his hands on the officers gun and push it partially out of battery as his first two attempts at firing just clicked. Now had he pushed the slide far enough he could have jammed it.
 
Gary, I can't get any of your Youtube links to work. Are they examples of armed citizens being killed or injured because their semi autos quit working?
 
They are examples of criminals using semi autos to either rob a store, shoot at police or shoot somebody in cold blood but there guns jammed or failed to fire. You won't find many videos of citizens having failures because those generally don't take place in a convenience store where there are lots of cameras.
 
Odds vs. Murphy's law

I know of three men who have shot for their life and ended the confrontation with one shot. Yet none of them carry a T/C Contender for personal defense.

Unless he's Jerry Mickulek, it will take most shooters longer to reload a revolver than an auto. Most firefights are over before a reload is necessary, but we practice the reloads, because Murphy's law can be H*E*double-toothpicks (Sorry, but I got WARNED today for pronouncing a police officer who shot off the end of his index finger in a gun store a topographical depression with fecal matter in it).

Most firefights occur at an average of 7 yards, the FBI says, yet we practice (OR SHOULD) at ranges greater than this.

We know from statistics at what distance the fight is likely to occur, and how many rounds are likely to be used before it ends. But the consequences of being wrong, even one time, about these assumptions applying to the scenario in which we find ourselves can be fatal. Something about the statistician who drowned in a lake with an average depth of only 18 inches comes to mind.

Do what you want, but when I've tempted fate in the past, it's USUALLY stepped up to take the challenge. I don't do that any more.
 
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True hartcreek, any handgun can fail, but a revolver is a lot less prone to fail as any who have shot both extensively can attest. Peggy, I'm looking at something that will chamber six rounds of .357 mag because I think that will be more than adequate. As of now I carry either my Glock 26 or in hot weather my Bersa .380cc.
 
Kosh I have only drawn my gun once and didn't even have to fire a single round, but that doesn't mean I would start carrying an airsoft either. Being realistic I think six rounds is plenty and would probably carry a speed loader just in case as I carry an extra magazine with my autos, but the odds of ever needing it seem next to nil.
 
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