Vt.birdhunter
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Outstanding, thank you for taking the time to post this.
Results of gun care product evaluation
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Another WOW! Here. Thanks for taking the time, effort and expense to perform these test. It's valuable info to protect our firearms with this comprehensive unbiased review. I've been a diehard eezox user for years and still will, but I can now see which product (s) I'll be adding.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
Exceptional work, sir. Thank you for taking the time, effort and money to make that happen. Maybe we'll sticky it but since Sticky threads have a way of being "invisible" to most users, we'll let it float for while at least.
Interesting to me that so many of the products actually have as bad or worse corrosion than the control.
Interesting to me that so many of the products actually have as bad or worse corrosion than the control.
I share your amazement that there are so many “bad” products out there. To visit their respective web sites and read the sales pitch, you would not expect such poor results. The prices of some of these “fantastic and amazing” products does not stand up to the rigors of practical use.
Ive received a number of messages asking what the 3 top performing products look like when dispensed. I will answer that here.
Frog Lube (in this variety) is a Green and runny product. It needs to be spread around and wiped off gun parts.
WD 40 Specialist is a spray that is thick. It reminds me of a non-stick cooking spray. It needs to be spread around and wiped off (or it could be left on in excess depending on the application)
One shot comes out of the can clear and quickly disappears. By the time I sprayed it on this plate while holding it over the trash can, set it down, started the camera and took the pic it was already dried (Hence the term Dry lube)
Also, there seems to be a misunderstanding that the WD 40 specialist that did well in this evaluation is standard WD 40. It is not. It is a completely different product that your regular WD 40.
Likewise, The Hornady One shot gun cleaner and dry lube is not the Hornady One shot case lube that reloaders use. (at least from a marketing and packaging standpoint. I cant speak to the contents.) The two may be the same and I would have no way of knowing but they have diff names, uses and packaging.
Frog Lube (in this variety) is a Green and runny product. It needs to be spread around and wiped off gun parts.
WD 40 Specialist is a spray that is thick. It reminds me of a non-stick cooking spray. It needs to be spread around and wiped off (or it could be left on in excess depending on the application)
One shot comes out of the can clear and quickly disappears. By the time I sprayed it on this plate while holding it over the trash can, set it down, started the camera and took the pic it was already dried (Hence the term Dry lube)
Also, there seems to be a misunderstanding that the WD 40 specialist that did well in this evaluation is standard WD 40. It is not. It is a completely different product that your regular WD 40.
Likewise, The Hornady One shot gun cleaner and dry lube is not the Hornady One shot case lube that reloaders use. (at least from a marketing and packaging standpoint. I cant speak to the contents.) The two may be the same and I would have no way of knowing but they have diff names, uses and packaging.
G. Freeman
New member
DIY,
Thank you sir for your awesome contribution!
Best regards...
Thank you sir for your awesome contribution!
Best regards...
Upon completion of this evaluation I sent emails to several of the manufacturers of the products used. Thus far (4 days after sending the emails) I have received only one reply and it came from the founders of Frog Lube. Here is that reply.
“Ron,
We are stunned by the exhaustive and comprehensive approach of your testing. And we are quite flattered at the result. You have done something no one else has done.
We do our testing in primarily in operating firearms, but we have done some technical tests such as the corrosion and lubricity testing and have seen the same results.
May we use this link to share with our customers on line and in our facebook page? We have lots of fans (and a few competitors) who would appreciate seeing this.
Also, we very much appreciate your 'objectivity' and your public claims. This strengthens the validity of your results.
Thanks again for sharing this profound work with us.
Larry Lasky & Stacy Lasky
FrogLube Founders “
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I replied to them with the following:
“Feel free to share or distribute the info as you see fit. Prior to this evaluation I had never used Frog Lube (or many of the products I evaluated) so I was curious and ended up doing this evaluation. My search for lube and corrosion solution was not entirely firearms centric as I am more of an archer and bowhunter so I would like to make this request. Archery and Bowhunting are very large markets with direct overlap to firearms owners. The same holds true for the rapidly increasing crossbow and crossbowhunting market. All of these user groups require lubrication and corrosion solutions.
The main difference for the bowhunting and crossbow hunting market is the scent/smell of products we use due to how close bowhunters and perhaps crossbow hunters have to get to prey to make a successful shot. The minty smell of Frog Lube may keep this user group from using your product. Would it be possible to remove the minty scent and create a scent free version? Breaking into the archery/bowhunting and crossbow hunting market would create another demographic purchasing your product. Please consider it. You would certainly have me as a customer for more than just firearms usage.
Ron”
“Ron,
We are stunned by the exhaustive and comprehensive approach of your testing. And we are quite flattered at the result. You have done something no one else has done.
We do our testing in primarily in operating firearms, but we have done some technical tests such as the corrosion and lubricity testing and have seen the same results.
May we use this link to share with our customers on line and in our facebook page? We have lots of fans (and a few competitors) who would appreciate seeing this.
Also, we very much appreciate your 'objectivity' and your public claims. This strengthens the validity of your results.
Thanks again for sharing this profound work with us.
Larry Lasky & Stacy Lasky
FrogLube Founders “
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I replied to them with the following:
“Feel free to share or distribute the info as you see fit. Prior to this evaluation I had never used Frog Lube (or many of the products I evaluated) so I was curious and ended up doing this evaluation. My search for lube and corrosion solution was not entirely firearms centric as I am more of an archer and bowhunter so I would like to make this request. Archery and Bowhunting are very large markets with direct overlap to firearms owners. The same holds true for the rapidly increasing crossbow and crossbowhunting market. All of these user groups require lubrication and corrosion solutions.
The main difference for the bowhunting and crossbow hunting market is the scent/smell of products we use due to how close bowhunters and perhaps crossbow hunters have to get to prey to make a successful shot. The minty smell of Frog Lube may keep this user group from using your product. Would it be possible to remove the minty scent and create a scent free version? Breaking into the archery/bowhunting and crossbow hunting market would create another demographic purchasing your product. Please consider it. You would certainly have me as a customer for more than just firearms usage.
Ron”
Its been 288 hours (12 days) since Board #1 was placed outside and 264 hours (11 days) for Board #2 so I thought I would update. There has been some rain this week but lots of sun and wind and the trees are spreading all manner of pollen and debris in the air. The Sun’s UV rays have all but made the sharpie marker unreadable but I have a map and can still make it out enough to see.
Here are the two boards where they are residing on the patio.
And here are the close-ups of the samples.
As for Board #3 in my house. Its been 240 hours (10 days) and as expected, the indoor protection in a constant environment has them all still in fine shape.
Here are the two boards where they are residing on the patio.
And here are the close-ups of the samples.
As for Board #3 in my house. Its been 240 hours (10 days) and as expected, the indoor protection in a constant environment has them all still in fine shape.
Picked up some of the one shot "tap one shot extreme use weapon cleaner/dry lube w/4x metal detector" today. Seems like great stuff. Pretty slick when dry. It says it has 9 later formula that withstands 400 hours of salt spray. So far I've used on 4 semi autos and did seem to smooth things out some even though these guns were already cleaned & lubed.
Tried some on a sliding door track & made a big difference. I'm sold on it. 7 oz can $13.
Ps.. I'll still use my eezox primarily for cleaning & finish with dry lube.
Tried some on a sliding door track & made a big difference. I'm sold on it. 7 oz can $13.
Ps.. I'll still use my eezox primarily for cleaning & finish with dry lube.
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We have been experiencing torrential rains and flash flooding. When it isn’t raining its very humid. Its certainly been a wet spring. The UV rays have now completely erased the sharpie marker labels on the boards but I know which is which from prior photos. Here is a picture of the two boards with board #1 at 15 days (360 hours) and board #2 at 14 days (336 hours). The top 3 performing products are continuing to protect the steel plates.
