Remember the problem is illegal ALIENS...
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NedreckSavant
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I love how people are willing to dole out more fiery rhetoric and ill-will towards immigrants instead of the employers/elected leaders who make it happen. You can blame and beat the ass all you like but as long as we allow the carrot to dangle things will continue to plod forward...On an unrelated note I can't wait till all of your white kids start having lil hispanic babies! 
It makes me smile just thinking about it...
Seriously, anyone who thinks that anyone else has more or less of a right to do something based upon the color of their skin, language they speak, or patch of land they were born...they deserve a mix baby in the family.
It makes me smile just thinking about it...Seriously, anyone who thinks that anyone else has more or less of a right to do something based upon the color of their skin, language they speak, or patch of land they were born...they deserve a mix baby in the family.
nedreck
Let's not play race cards... the issue is criminal intrusion and escape and evasion...
And welfare fraud and educational and medical benefits without paying into the various systems... and what not...
My family is all mixed up and I have a grand-daughter who is part Hispanic and part Chinese and part European... Hell, I don't care what color she is, I love her no-end and I know she's not a criminal...
I am also concerned about the anti-American attitude of these criminal invaders...
AND that there are damned good people (who are not anti-American) all over the world, who are languishing and waiting years for the INS to OK them so they can be proud and "legitimate" US Citizen's.
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The criminal, is a criminal, is a criminal... and those who encourage the criminals are also criminals...
carbiner
How's about that?
Let's not play race cards... the issue is criminal intrusion and escape and evasion...
And welfare fraud and educational and medical benefits without paying into the various systems... and what not...
My family is all mixed up and I have a grand-daughter who is part Hispanic and part Chinese and part European... Hell, I don't care what color she is, I love her no-end and I know she's not a criminal...
I am also concerned about the anti-American attitude of these criminal invaders...
AND that there are damned good people (who are not anti-American) all over the world, who are languishing and waiting years for the INS to OK them so they can be proud and "legitimate" US Citizen's.
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The criminal, is a criminal, is a criminal... and those who encourage the criminals are also criminals...
carbiner
How's about that?
NedreckSavant
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the fact that you're concerned about anyone's attitude that you haven't sat down with and met is what I'm talking about...You know nothing more about any of their collective attitudes than squat. But to each their own.
I'm probably the singlemost LEAST religous person that god may have mistakenly dropped on this earth, but I thinks it's downright stupid to call someone a criminal over these laws. Have they done anything that any god in heaven would be angry over? Would they not contribute more taxes if given the chance? Are there any other taxes other than income that they're skipping out on? So they shouldn't be here due to the lack of taxes paid? Awesome, lets string up some criminals. Continue pushing your rock uphill. Let me know how you progress...
I'm probably the singlemost LEAST religous person that god may have mistakenly dropped on this earth, but I thinks it's downright stupid to call someone a criminal over these laws. Have they done anything that any god in heaven would be angry over? Would they not contribute more taxes if given the chance? Are there any other taxes other than income that they're skipping out on? So they shouldn't be here due to the lack of taxes paid? Awesome, lets string up some criminals. Continue pushing your rock uphill. Let me know how you progress...
Destructo6
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Every country has a right to determine who enters and who does not. Much like the house that you own: you determine who comes in and who does not.
NedreckSavant
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Yes but I know for a fact that if I leave crumbs on the table or in the sink, ants will come. I don't get angry at the ants, so much as the children who leave the things out for them. (or the landlord for not installing the door properly...seems it won't close right, keeps lettin stuff in. damn ants!) Analogy or coincidence?
These sorry illegals are also threatening America with a May 1st walk out. This is outrages. It's damaging to OUR country.
They are making threats of disorder if America enforces tougher laws.
Who the hell do these ILLEGAL ALIENS think they are.
Do Americans even have the guts to stand up against ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, or will they just rationalize the demise and slow take over of their own country.
The progressive liberals preach no more borders, and are fighting for more ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Americans have been dumbed down by these PC/Media people.
NEDRECKSAVANT, to read your post 42, is a great example of where you really stand. Very sad.
They are making threats of disorder if America enforces tougher laws.
Who the hell do these ILLEGAL ALIENS think they are.
Do Americans even have the guts to stand up against ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, or will they just rationalize the demise and slow take over of their own country.
The progressive liberals preach no more borders, and are fighting for more ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Americans have been dumbed down by these PC/Media people.
NEDRECKSAVANT, to read your post 42, is a great example of where you really stand. Very sad.
I hate to disillusion you, but... We are not talking about immigrants in general. We are speaking to illegal immigrants in specific.NedreckSavant said:
Each and every country in the world has the right to set its own standards as to how someone will immigrate to that country. Facts are, that your "turn of phrase" is the problem. Not all immigrants are lawfully in this country. And that is what is being debated here.
If you want to have unlimited immigration, you should be lobbying your congresscritters for that. Many US citizens, if not most, do not want unlimited immigration. Nor should the unlawful persons have any say in the matter. Being unlawful, they have no legal voice in the matter.
There are millions of these "intruders" saying that the Americans stole the southwest from them...
These millions also advocate PUBLICALLY the takeover (By any means) of that same territory and giving it back to the Mexican Government which is not even the same country and government from which we "stole" it!
If these intruders were to go to ANY OTHER COUNTRY in the world, and say these things... it would not be tolerated to any damned degree whatsoever! Only in the United Sates could they hope to get away with it!
I think most of these intruders are, in fact, very good people. Hard working and US citizen wannabes... (NOT anti-American) But I am seriously opposed to them cheating, jumping the line, and hiding here to take advantage of the situation... There are more than YOUR so-called principles at stake here...
Compromise... is a convenient excuse for agreeing to disagree and for caving in to circumstances that appear insurmountable.
The compromising of "correct principles" will come back to bite someone... sometimes it's us, and it's always our children!
These millions also advocate PUBLICALLY the takeover (By any means) of that same territory and giving it back to the Mexican Government which is not even the same country and government from which we "stole" it!
If these intruders were to go to ANY OTHER COUNTRY in the world, and say these things... it would not be tolerated to any damned degree whatsoever! Only in the United Sates could they hope to get away with it!
Until now, I thought you were reasonable...
I think most of these intruders are, in fact, very good people. Hard working and US citizen wannabes... (NOT anti-American) But I am seriously opposed to them cheating, jumping the line, and hiding here to take advantage of the situation... There are more than YOUR so-called principles at stake here...
Compromise... is a convenient excuse for agreeing to disagree and for caving in to circumstances that appear insurmountable.
The compromising of "correct principles" will come back to bite someone... sometimes it's us, and it's always our children!
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Harley Quinn
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Rush has a little ditty on it
He is very harsh on the immigrants.
Then he tells everyone it is the standing laws of Mexico, LOL.
Great Video.
If I can figure out a way to download it I will.
Actually I am going to E-Mail it to Antipitas maybe he will feel it is important enough to play for all.
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He is very harsh on the immigrants.
Then he tells everyone it is the standing laws of Mexico, LOL.
Great Video.
If I can figure out a way to download it I will.
Actually I am going to E-Mail it to Antipitas maybe he will feel it is important enough to play for all.
HQ
Destructo6
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I step on, and kill, ants with impunity.
We're not talking about ants or anything sub-human here. We're talking about, generally, decent people who apparently think that proximity somehow confers a right to ignore immigration laws.
NedreckSavant
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Sure, ants will be stepped on but I'm not screaming from the rooftops, "those damn ants! Woe is me!", I CLEAN UP THE MESS. I've finally realized why I thought the minutemen were misguided. They capture mexicans to send them back only to have them come back again. What is that accomplishing? Pissing off a mexican for a week? Letting someone feel like they've done something worthwhile for a day? And is not the only thing more misguided than someone thinking they have the right to go somewhere due to the extraordinariy close proximity, is someone thinking they don't from around the other side of the world/continent. To some it's black/white, I like to think it's a little of a grey matter to those that have lived in the southwest their entire lives. Is it fair to some european or whathaveyou who's waited in line for years going through the system properly? No, of course not. Poor unlucky bastard shoulda been born in mehico...But I think that some of you would honestly go blue in the face trying to convince a mexican why they're wrong. They care about as much as ants. Fix the system, the rest will follow. Damn ants...
nedreck, you are the perfect example of the blame America first and foremost for everyone elses problems.
It's the ILLEGAL ALIENS that are the problem.
redworm take off your halo, you have demonstrated how well you can rationalize your behavior/liberal ideals, and simply condem all others. So it's some fine for you to sell out America, profit from crooked business practice.
Then you go around accusing other folks on this forum of being some form of hypocrite.
AGAIN, the ILLEGAL ALIENS are the problem, NOT the Minute Men or the USA.
It's the ILLEGAL ALIENS that are the problem.
redworm take off your halo, you have demonstrated how well you can rationalize your behavior/liberal ideals, and simply condem all others. So it's some fine for you to sell out America, profit from crooked business practice.
Then you go around accusing other folks on this forum of being some form of hypocrite.
AGAIN, the ILLEGAL ALIENS are the problem, NOT the Minute Men or the USA.
NedreckSavant
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Carbiner, I love how you legitimately try to drop the blame america bomb. Fine. Between changing a system that's allowed millions to work under the table or changing the millions...I obviously should have tried my hardest to earn my place among the ranks of the minute men. I mean, when the alternative is to blame america...sheesh.
btw, I never said the minute men were in any way a problem, just seemingly futile. By their own admission do they not just come back?
btw, I never said the minute men were in any way a problem, just seemingly futile. By their own admission do they not just come back?
the minuteman project hinders the illegal aliens from crossing while drawing national attention to the problem and making inept leaders(like Bush) uncomfortable...
redworm..there is no use in debating you any further since your concept of right and wrong is upside down....
redworm..there is no use in debating you any further since your concept of right and wrong is upside down....
NedreckSavant
Try sending them back in their underwear... (First offense)
Send them back without their underwear... (Second offense)
Keep them in a Joe Arpeio Tent city prison for 6 months... (Third offense)
and increase their penalty to a year of chain-gang-farm-labor and send them home without pay!... (fourth offense)
If they aren't utterly stupid, the great majority of them will not try to cheat again...
Or you could just shoot them... for the invaders that they are...
Redworm
If a dozen homeless people moved, un-invited, into your yard and your garage and even your home...
You would either run them off... or threaten them with a gun... or call some LEO with a gun to come and take them away... and when they came back again, and again, and again, you would soon become sick of it because it is NOW a problem FOR YOU!
If you make it difficult and scary and unpleasant... Many of them will be deterred from coming back...
Try sending them back in their underwear... (First offense)
Send them back without their underwear... (Second offense)
Keep them in a Joe Arpeio Tent city prison for 6 months... (Third offense)
and increase their penalty to a year of chain-gang-farm-labor and send them home without pay!... (fourth offense)
If they aren't utterly stupid, the great majority of them will not try to cheat again...
Or you could just shoot them... for the invaders that they are...
Redworm
That's the problem!
If a dozen homeless people moved, un-invited, into your yard and your garage and even your home...
You would either run them off... or threaten them with a gun... or call some LEO with a gun to come and take them away... and when they came back again, and again, and again, you would soon become sick of it because it is NOW a problem FOR YOU!
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