READ BEFORE POSTING! World Trade Center Terror Attack?

Well, John/AZ...you've outdone yourself this time. I doubt if Bin Laden himself could have put it better. We're "ripe," huh? Maybe you should clarify yourself. You sound quite pleased.
 
Max-
Reread the TFL Policies....we're all hot right now. In retrospect, what will separate the Men from the Boys at TFL is our ability to find Common Ground; not reasons to lash out. Check your email.

John-
I'm appealing to you, should you respond. Take the High Road.
Rich
 
As far as what GWB is doing.... he is presently at Offitt AFB in Omaha NE and for those who do not realize, that is the headquarters of the Strategic Air Command. I would expect that some sort of retalitory plans are being discussed.
 
Your point about expertise is well taken Rock_Jock, BUT, regardless of how many degrees I have or don't have, I AM able to observe and to extrapolate my experiences without needing to ONLY follow the advice of the experts. I prefer to see what I see, NOT what others tell me to see.

Admitedly, as much as 40,000 gallons of fuel makes a very large molotov but also, even in a tower fire inferno like these I am unable to see how a fuel fire can take down that much steel and concrete so effectively TWICE.

The floors that I saw where about 2 1/2 feet thick cabled, pre-stressed concrete with riveted and welded steel beams the size of a car body.

I could more easily understand bomb like fuel vapor explosions and gallons of fuel flowing down the building in various ways resulting in bomb like series of explosions in floor after floor as the fuel and fire flowed down the building's innards.

Rock_Jock what sort of engineering are you involved in?
 
Maxinquaye, check yourself. At no time did John state his admiration for the bastards who committed the crime. If he had, I'd be on the road to Arizona right now for a face-to-face.

Folks, our emotions are at their most volatile ever. EVER. Don't let those emotions and undirected rage lead to attacks on your allies.

As I noted above, now more than ever we need to be unified and strong. Petty squabbles are absolutely the last thing we need.

Keep your heads clear and remember: your fellows here are not the enemy.
 
Rich,

Yeah, I forgive the initial delay in his return but it's fairly secure now and he needs to go back to the oval office and go to work. Clearly, me and Dubbya (and you) agree on this :) A delay of a day or two would have looked very bad and hurt his and our prestige.

Now it's time to start launching those cruise missiles and give the networks some new smoking rubble to film.... well, as soon as we have a clear target anyway.
 
Keith, the prez' physical presence at the White House is irrelevant and potentially dangerous. He simply doesn't need to be there in person, considering our comms capabilities. Keeping him on the move keeps the enemy guessing.
 
Radio program this morning was giving some facts on the WTC... It was finished in 1970 and was engineered to withstand a hit from a 707 (the biggest jet at that time I think they said).

Anybody know how much heavier a 767 is or how much more fuel a 767 holds?
 
Has anyone heard any more details of the hijacked, crash in Pennsylvania? This seems to be the only one in which we could possibly identify the remains of any passangers. This might be the key to finding out who is responsible. Funny,I have'nt seen any vidio and only a little coverage of this one!
 
fuel and weight of 767 is:
Maximum Fuel Capacity 23,980 U.S. gal (90,770 l)
Maximum Takeoff Weight 450,000 lb (204,120 kg)

Boeing 707 15,000 gallons
weight 160,000 lb
 
Not everybody's mourning...

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Hijackers were armed with "knives and cardboard cutters" according to CNN. A lady inside the plane called out from her cellphone.

Also, gas prices taking a monstrous hike to $2-4 a gallon in several states.
 
David, I just heard the same thing on local radio here in Idaho, too. Gas prices rising a lot, and people in line.

Haven't been out to confirm...
 
All,

The basic principle we must support right now is unity.

Let each pray to whatever diety he reveres and let those who have no diety do what they want to gain strength.

But let each and every one of us follow our religious beliefs without interference from each other.

It is freedom OF religion - not freedom FROM religion. If that's wrong for you, skip it in the name of unity - as many of us do.

Unity.
 
CNN- 5:55PM
Kabul Afganistan is under attack.
Several explosions are going off in the background behind the CNN reporter.
 
Maxinquaye,

Thank you for keeping it civil. I hope we are much clearer on what I meant by my post.



Thumper,

The America of today is a very faint shadow of the America I grew up loving.

We have reaped what we have sown, and I am NOT pleased with it. But, I feel that we can not do justice to justice by NOT looking at ourselves. Even now, we look for outside sources for our troubles.

Something about weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth...
It usually happens when I am forced to introspection and hate what I find within.

It was just a matter of time.
 
Dave, I was out at lunch, dropping by Red Cross (they have a one week waiting list already for donations, which is good I suppose). Gas is up around 6-10 cents, last time I was out. I don't expect it to go insane, but it wouldn't surprise me if it creeps up a little more for a few weeks.

-K

Oh -- Red Cross is on Phillipi and Franklin in Boise. Good idea to go...
 
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