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nukeandjuke: I am going to agree with you 100% on the Hornady bullet feeder not being able to load lead bullets. Now, I have heard of some folks that have been able to do this. I have tried but the most I have been able to load in a row is 26. This is not acceptable to me, so I will load jacketed.

Now, you say that the LNL and the 650 are equals in your opinion. I respect your opinion, but I would like to know if you feel that with just the press, no case feeder and no bullet feeder. If they are equal. Or are you talking about both with the case feeder? And what happens when you add a bullet feeder to the Hornady?

The reason I ask this is because last Labor Day we had a Dillon vs Hornady comparison. I set up both a Dillon and an LNL and had two reloaders that neither one ran on a Dillon or a Hornady act as the handle jerks.
Both like the Hornady as the stand-alone press. One liked the Hornady with just the case feeder and the other one liked the Dillon. The one that liked the Dillon was because "it just felt better" and the primer alarm. But once I added the Bullet feeder and the Deluxe control panel to the Hornady they both liked the Hornady. The only add-on for the Dillon was the powder alarm.
 
Now, you say that the LNL and the 650 are equals in your opinion. I respect your opinion, but I would like to know if you feel that with just the press, no case feeder and no bullet feeder. If they are equal. Or are you talking about both with the case feeder?

I say they are not equal. The Dillon 650 can’t be bought without the device setup from the factory that has a tube full of cases and with each stroke of the handle takes a case from the tube and inserts it into the shell plate. Most of us would call this a case feeder but they choose not to.

Instead they call their collator a “case feeder”, when it’s really a case feed, feeder.

This is one reason the 650 costs more than the LNL but the LNL “case feeder” costs more the Dillon collator. Because the LNL case feeder is not only the collator but all the other bits and pieces to take the collated cases from the tube and place them into the shell plate.

How well the case feed works on an LNL is due in large part to how well the owner installs and tweaks all of these parts. On the Dillon all the guy or gal has to do is drop it on the post, plug it in and turn it on as the complicated part of “case feed” is already complete.
 
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