Plastic Parts on Beretta 92FS - What's the conclusion?

Yes for sue that what I saw was then chrome lining. I thought its eighter an sleeve or chrome lining.
Are chrome lined barrels better?
Is chrome lining affecting the use of lead bullets?
 
I guess one more question would be, "Would you skip buying a new Beretta because of the polymer parts?", and if so, why?
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Yes. I routinely buy an earlier variants of firearms to get around 'improvements'.
 
Barrel sleeve and insert ? BHPs were made that way for many years without any problem that I heard about !!!
 
I assume BHP means Browning High Power.

This "metal insert with surrounding Plastik" seems to be an "European Thing". No good at all I say!

Yes they may work till they don't. Obviously.

What bothers me is These Berettas should sell for max 400 US$ then if Plastik is used to cut costs.
But no way they lower the Price. It is a form of rip off of the customer because he gets less gun for the same Money.
It is definitelly less gun.
But the Chrome lined Barrel seems to be a good idea since it makes 'em more durable (like an AR15 Chrome lined Barrel or do I confuse it with the AK47 Chrome lined Barrels?).

What about avoiding These Plastik parts buying just an Taurus PT92 inox?
 
Are chrome lined barrels better?
Is chrome lining affecting the use of lead bullets?
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Chrome is very hard and very corrosion resistant. My guess is chrome-lined barrels last longer than plain steel barrels and are a big advantage if one is shooting corrosive ammo.

There should be no problem using lead bullets in a chrome-lined bore.

The blued Berettas have chrome-lined bores. The INOX guns usually just have a plain stainless steel barrel with no chrome-lining.

I find that chrome-lined barrels are easier/quicker to clean.
What bothers me is These Berettas should sell for max 400 US$ then if Plastik is used to cut costs.
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Beretta 92FS prices have remained pretty constant since I bought my first one back in the early 1990s. Given that inflation has reduced the buying power of the dollar considerably over the two decades that have passed since then, that means that Beretta has been steadily lowering the actual cost of the gun to keep the numerical price from changing. My guess is that the plastic parts are one of the methods they've used to accomplish that goal.
 
The op posed his question seven years ago. I'm wondering if he ever bought a pistol with "plastic" parts and gave it a test for durability.
 
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yes that would be interesting knowing how durable those Plastik parts on the gun are.
 
I'll second that. I had no idea Beretta was using plasti-coated triggers and I wouldn't have known unless this thread got bumped. I had a 92G Centurion years ago and it was a great pistol... in fact the only 9mm I wished I'd kept. If the urge gets too strong, I'll hunt up an old one now.
 
Regardless plastik parts or not Beretta actually sells an metal parts kit to replace all plastik parts on the Beretta 92.
They run for about 100$ in the US and over here in Southamerica they will turn to an hefty 250$.

One may buy the plastik gun and replace all plastik parts with the metal parts.

I wished the Beretta mil spec with the 1911 style grip would be not so incredible expensive. That is an nice gun but runs at Galleryofguns at 1100$ which will be here about 2500$. For sure they can make them as well for 775$ as the standard models do.
 
The cheapening of the present 92FS variants will make me look for a nice used one like I used to have. Mine was a nearly new looking "trade in" from some police department. It had a couple of tiny nicks on it and I would bet it had less than a couple of mags worth of ammo through it. It had no plastic parts in it.

They turn up on the auction sites quite often. A friend bought an INOX 92FS in near new condition for about $400 a year ago, no plastic in it either. I bought mine in 2012 with 3 factory and five surplus aftermarket mags, in the original plastic case for $410.
 
Plastic cuts cost...it is the future.
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Plastic cuts market share and sales. Plastic parts on metal guns will be discussed and ridiculed throughout the entire gun blogosphere. At least MIM will fool most people. If you are going to make a stainless steel gun and decorate it with plastic parts, you might as well print the following in big bold letters on the slide:

WARNING! THIS FIREARM IS MADE CHEAPLY AND WE DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK ITS UGLY
 
I don't have a problem with the polymer parts on the Beretta, with the exception of the black parts on a stainless model looks pretty tacky. I have not had any issues with the polymer coated parts, I have changed the guide rods out on a few of mine, but the polymer ones don't seem to cause any issues at all.
 
Ironically, while I've never heard of a polymer guide rod failing in a 92FS, I have heard of the two piece steel rods failing...
 
My Point of view is if polymer is 70% cheaper to make than steel/stainless then the gun should be cheaper as well.
Like if it costs 600$ to make an all stainless gun and they Switch controls and other parts to Plastik then the gun should be MRSP 400$ to 500$. But they don't lower the Price.

The downward road from steel to Plastik is that they may end up in such an Frame as the M&P is: steel inserted Plastik Frame.
From the SD9VE I know that the Frame flexes and gives an awkward Feeling since I manage even to squeeze the grip with my Hand. It's frankly cheaply.

The Price gap between an full stainless gun is huge These days as such that full stainless/steel guns are almost not affordable anymore.
What worries me is the road Beretta has taken with starting plastifying their guns: it Ends in an whole Plastik gun or maybe an shoot a box of ammo and throw it away and buy a new one.
Guns should be heirlooms.
 
My Point of view is if polymer is 70% cheaper to make than steel/stainless then the gun should be cheaper as well.
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It is cheaper. When I bought my first Beretta 92FS in the early 1990s, I paid about what a new Beretta 92FS would cost today. That means that in the past 2 decades, Beretta has not significantly changed the price of the gun in spite of inflation. That means that they are getting LESS money (corrected for inflation) than they did when they were selling them in the early 1990s. Some of that savings is coming from the plastic parts.

The savings won't be 70% because there are only a few plastic parts (relatively speaking) on the new guns, but there is savings.
What worries me is the road Beretta has taken with starting plastifying their guns: it Ends in an whole Plastik gun or maybe an shoot a box of ammo and throw it away and buy a new one.
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I don't think there's any danger of that. The plastic parts on the Beretta (with the exception of the guide rod) are metal core parts with plastic overmold. They are, as far as I can tell, just as durable and functional as the original parts but cheaper to make.
 
Yeah I was gonna say I think a 92FS cost now about the same as I paid in the late 90s. That means it's cheaper now. By quite a lot.

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I've owned a lot of HKs. While the prices have come down lately, at the time I bought many of them they were $800+ guns. These pistols use polymer coated triggers as well as hammers with polymer spurs and decocking levers coated in polymer. The bases of these parts were still steel. I never found them to be cheap nor did I have an actual problem with those parts.


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