Passive Non-Compliance

This is what I would do:

Evidently the bad guy knows the laws that YOU have to live buy, otherwise he would have complied to your order to remove himself from the car.

However, I would keep the gun handy, As quickly as possible, ZIP TIE a rope to his ankle and tie the other end to the trailer hitch, then enter the drivers seat and tell him that we are going for a ride, I think his reaction would be PRICELESS.

DISCLAIMER: This SHOULD NOT be taken as advice, I was mearly attempting to inject some HUMOR into a senario that pretty much leaves you with your hands tied by any legal definition:mad::mad::(:rolleyes:
 
I still like the discharge of Tactical Spew...one could load up with grape juice for colour, polenta for texture and baby shrimp for that o gawd get them off, GETTHEMOFF response....

The get out the ropes and chains...

I'm going to the market today, my food choices and meal planning will be based to tactical applications versus nutrition and flavour..

Ken chan, why you eat pea and oreo soup with squid? Disgusting!

WildwellhoneyjustloadingupfornoncompliantcarthievesAlaska TM
 
You guys and gals best educate yourselves!

I don't know about the laws where you live but here in Florida, I do believe you have the right to stop someone who is burglarizing your home/property.
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Also I think here (La) technically you would be legal but still wouldn't look good on your part so much, you could jump in the car with him and then shoot him since he made forced entry.
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"Think?" "Technically?" What the hell are you guys talking about? I have seen several posts like this, and it horrifies me. If YOU OWN A GUN, YOU MUST, MUST, MUST, MUST ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY HAVE TO KNOW WHEN AND HOW IT CAN BE EMPLOYED IN YOUR STATE! If you don't know, sell your guns. If you don't know, you are a danger to yourself and your family as you might go to jail and leave them in the lurch. The Skydiver said he lives in Florida, and I can assure you that the CASTLE doctrine DOES NOT APPLY in this situation. In Florida, using a gun in this situation is going to get you in jail.

What you guys are saying is that you've read the laws, and in your states you believe that you would be justified. Are you willing to go to jail over "I think," and "technically?" Not me dude!

One other thing, when you guys and gals post with testosterone (I know, but gals produce testosterone too) fuelled bravado on this forum, understand one thing. If you ever are involved in a shooting that isn't absolutely righteous, everything you've ever posted will be blown up on the big display screen in front of a jury.

I don't always agree with WildAlaska, but be sure of one thing, you don't want to end up like the Pharmacist after a bad shoot. The difference in his case between heroism and jail is apparently one shot.

Sorry about the rant, I just had to get that off my chest. :cool:

BTW, TeeRoux, it looks like you are right, the LA law seems to justify you in this case, I wasn't attacking you particularly, I don't think you are the type of poster I am referring to.
 
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Since there can be some issues with "recoil" using spew... I prefer to prepare in advance and use exhaust fumes... Just last night I was testing a new formulation using egg salad samiches, grilled chicken salad with a raspberry vinagrette dressing and mangos topped off with several Ice House beers... Brought tears to my daughters eyes without direct dispersal. One of them let loose in the vehicle and slam door shut and I WIN!!!
Brent
 
To my point.

Brought tears to my daughters eyes without direct dispersal.
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Not only is that probably a violation of the laws of the state of Florida, it is probably in violation of several international treaties and conventions. I'm not sure whom I should call, DCF or the UN.:eek:
 
I don't know about the laws where you live but here in Florida, I do believe you have the right to stop someone who is burglarizing your home/property.
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I don't know how I missed this... maybe it was posted while MY eyes were watering.

But under no circumstances is it legal to use lethal force to stop a property only crime. If you are in the car and a thug tries to jack it from you, you can feel that the risk to your life was elevated to the point that lethal force is justified but you cannot walk up to your car to stop the theft of car or contents with lethal force.
If you are in the home and it is intruded upon you can use lethal force to protect your life or health not your property.
Brent
 
A Clockwork Orange

A little off-topic, but only a little.

I observe an acceptance of laws that seem to have turned us into cast members of the novel/movie A Clockwork Orange.

Depressing.

Contact your legislators. Become a legislator.

Lost Sheep.
 
Wow I love this thread! And I will stick to OC spray, I didnt realize the wasp spray stuff was illegal( I have never held a can of it, and my mom suggested it). :D
 
Yeah, hose him with OC, then hose him some more.

Just for idle speculation, though, I wonder what the scummie's reaction would be if you doused him with flamable liquid, stepped back and let him hear the 'ker-clink' of snapping your Zippo open . . . . :D
 
Speaking of the hose, use a pressure washer. It won't cause any permanent damage (usually) and can hurt like hell...
 
By the time, I dig my pressure washer out of the garage and hook it up, the guy is probably gone.

The OC sounds like a good bet. Keep one by the front door and/or in the garage.

BTW, in the garage - I have one of those 25 foot range Wasp sprays (which are bad for you). That's a nice treat.
 
For wasps, use diesel fuel in a plastic spray bottle, wont ignite and the wasps will die as soon as it hits em. Diesel needs high temps to ignite a lighter or match wont do it.

It also works in a BGs eyes, spray then run to a phone...
 
I'll admit I did not read all the thread, but how did the guy get there? Is his car parked in front of your house? You could do a little pay back right then with a ball bat against his head lights and windshield.

Speaking of that ball bat, a few hefty whacks against the soles of his feet would put him in a different frame of mind as well.
 
So let me get this straight, a leg's hangin' out the door of my Mustang and some ass-hat is yanking the stereo I installed myself? He does not respond favorably to my commands. I know I can't shoot him but I'll slam his leg in the door hard enough to get his attention and hold it to keep him there. If he wants to get froggy after that it's his call. Either way, before he decides there'll be 85 pounds of fur, teeth and mad at being woke up comin' in the other door of the car. My dog always goes out with me at night. Takin' the garbage out, gettin' something out of the car, etc.
 
The way I see it, from a legal standpoint, deadly force is out of the question as is assault. However, if it falls within the law that force can be applied to prevent him from leaving, just lean on the door and wait the half hour for the cops. :D (Worst case scenario is he loses a leg or his foot due to loss of circulation to his extremity at which point he probably could sue you and win... :barf:)
 
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