overpriced and second rate

Its just a question: Does it make Python over priced for what they are? And does it also make second rate since the are more fragile than Ruger and SW?

Its just a thought that occured to me. Can some one elaborate on this?
 
I don't get why people bash Kahr either, my PM-9 has been flawless and is made top notch, the store owner where I buy from is a police shooting instructor and he carries 3 or 4 different Kahrs and talked me into mine. Paid 580 brand new for mine.
 
+1 on the Python. I never got that gun. They're ok, but people act like they're the holy grail of all revolverdom. I prefer the gp-100. What does a Python go for these days anyway? Imho, over rated. Are they over priced?
 
Kel Tec P 11

Bought one for my daughter for Christmas. She hated shooting it, as did I. Both are seasoned shooters. Traded it for a used Colt Agent a day later. I took a beating on the trade financially but she loves the Colt, as do I.
 
I refer to my post #122.

I answer my own question. I DONT believe Python is in any way overpriced and second rated.

I have bought a Python and when you pull a trigger on it, you know why its the best of the best in revovlers.

As far as its going out of timing is concerned, that just BS by those who dont have it. Ask some one who has Python.
 
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Kahr for sure and at one time I would have included Kimber.

Now that I've taken a Kimber to the range and have had the pleasure of taking it for a spin, I have to say there worth every penny. Never thought I'd say that! Now to get one for myself. :D

Pierced Armor
 
"Does it make Python over priced for what they are? And does it also make second rate since the are more fragile than Ruger and SW?"

1. No.

2. They aren't. Google Grant Cunningham & Python for an explanation.

I just bought my second one, a 1967 model, and I look forward to shooting it. And I'm sorry that there are folks who can't tell the difference between a Python and a Ruger. I have a mid-80s Police Service Six that was slick right out of the box with a fantastic SA/DA trigger pull (according to guys with tuned S&Ws), but it's no Python. It's accurate at 50 yards with wadcutters, but not as accurate as my other Python.

Oh well, to each their own.

I like my Rohrbaugh, too.

John
 
I am sorry to hear that the quality of Kimber has gone so far downhill. I must keep more informed. That is a shame, but I did notice that they were coming out with so many models so fast that I thought they were going to make Smith & Wesson jealous with the size of their catalogue!
I have a 1996 vintage Custom Classic that is box stock except for adjustable sights that my machinest buddy put on. In 13 years of IPSC she has over 20,000 rounds through her, plus another 10,000 of plinking and practice and I have only changed the springs and mags. I have never had a single problem due to the gun. She still prints about 1.5" @ 25yds. I paid $550 at Atlantic Guns in Rockville. Md. All this gun does is run like a Greyhound out of the gate. I trust this gun as much as anything in my arsenel including my 686, which is saying something, for me anyway.
I also have an HK USP .40 that I got for about the same amount of money in New Mexico in 1993 and have shot IPSC with it. It has never even hinted at giving me a problem. It has digested everything from premium ammo to bulk stuff to handloads of great to crappy quality without a hint of trouble. 3,500+ rounds.
I do trust both of these guns with the safety of myself and my family without qualification of any kind.
I do not call that overrated and overpriced.

I do agree with the poster that pointed out that apparantly every gun ever made is overrated and overpriced according to someone or other on this thread.
 
Kahr?

What's wrong with the K9? I have carried one for years, nice and flat , maybe a little heavy, but deadnuts reliable and accurate. Everyone that has ever shot my tries to buy it from me. The early steel frames are a bit heavybut the profile, pointability and flatness is great.$$$ ...well a tad but how many carry a $200 gun?
 
My Seecamp 32 Might Be Overpriced To Some People. But 1911 's Are Not Too Others . Beauty In The Eye Of The Beholder :)
 
Any H&K that isn't a P7.

A polymer pistol that is going to demand a premium beyond the price of a Glock, Beretta, S&W, SA, Walther, or other polymer framed handgun has to simply bring a much better trigger to the competition. H&K DA triggers are totally awful. The LEM gets fanboy raves because it just doesn't suck as much. Make no mistake though, it still sucks hard.
 
this post blows me away. I carry and depend on a kahr,rohrbaugh, and a kimber ultra cdp II every day and bet my life on them. I also own and use to carry a python. I've used a gun in defense it was a ruger 357 this was 25 years ago, I carry my PM9,R9 , and ultra CDC II with confidence, my favorite is Kimber and R9 as BUG. I own and opperate a Jewelry Store.
 
A friend of mine has a really costly Kimber that is so, so finicky. It looks nice but it doesn't cycle ammo anywhere near reliably. Since it infrequently does what it was made to do, namely, shoot bullets, I would say that it qualifies as an overpriced gun.
 
Have I got a Lemon then?

Sorry about the Python comment. I have one and it has seen the gunsmith a time or two. Not very many rounds through it either. I also have a GP-100. Never has broke down, and with much more shooting.

I can however, tell the difference between the two. Still not a Python fan.

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Read the cunningham thing. Now I get it. I guess I'm just a working man, looking for his "Ford".
 
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And I have a Chevy, a blue 4" .357 Ruger Police Service Six, but I still enjoy shooting my Pythons even though the Ruger came with a superb trigger and excellent accuracy. It's superb according to S&W shooters with tuned guns. Sometimes the parts just fit together in the best possible alignment. Years ago I bought a spring kit to lighten the pull and it made it a lot heavier. Oh well, live and learn.

I don't know what happened to Kimber. I haven't paid much attention to them since buying a Stainless Gold Match in 1999.

I don't know how much CZs are going for these days, but they used to be called the best $500 or $600 gun you could get for $349. I think the strong Euro killed that price break.


"If you follow all of the opinions here, there aren't all that many brands left to choose from."

Sort of true. That's why you have to learn to examine each individual gun for fit and finish before you buy it and then hope you get lucky and there isn't a hidden flaw. Everybody has made a lemon or two.

John
 
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