John, OC people dont go pushing there views down anyones throats. were just trying to educate people on the fact that, it is a lot more comfortable then cc, and is faster to draw from and is a visable deterent to crime. I oc on the job as a armed guard, so no it is not a novelty for me, its part of my daily life.
One of my biggest beef with cc, is the fact that my drawing speed is severely hampered. instead of just droping my hand and drawing i have to raise my shirt out of the way before drawing. Which adds more then a second to my draw stroke, which could be the difference between life and death.
My second biggest beef is i hate having to purchase extra long and baggy shirts to cover up my gun, it makes me look even worse then i already do
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Oc allows me to wear normal clothing, that is atlease partialy fasionable.
Yea, there are instances of oc citizens getting robbed, i never said there wasnt. You mention gun stores, and i think they are a special circumstance. The robbers know they will be armed, and usualy there is more then 2-3robbers instead of the 1-2 robbers normaly seen on other crimes. The problem with alot of oc'ers is they get comfortable, same with gunstore clerks. They feel that there so safe in a gun store they relax there guard a bit and thats when stuff happens. Same with oc citizens, they just get comfortable, and relax there guard and thats when stuff happens, which is probably the case in your cited example, he was just not paying attention.
John, you countered one of my arguments, saying some guns do have adaquate caliber and capacity. Guns like the baby glocks and small versions of the other polymer guns. THe problem with say the mini glock 9mm(i cant remember off hand the designation) is that ya its small and concealable, but its short barrel length may have a detremental effect on the speed of the bullet, thusly affecting the performance of the bullet. Were as my oc'd full sized glock will get every ounce of speed from my 124grain hydrashoks.(i will be upgrading to 147grain tap tho). Ya speer makes short barrel ammo, but they only tested the 9mm in a 3.5" barrel, and alot of the small conceal guns in that caliber have barrels shorter then 3.5" so that makes the performance of that round suspect in those guns.
What everyone for or against needs to realize is that, both methods of carry are a comprimise, sure cc gives you surprise and dosent scare the people, but you wil have a slower draw stroke and all the while potentialy being very uncomfortable.
Sure oc'ers will have the advantage of a faster draw, and possible visable detterent, and greatly improved comfort, but if there not paying attention to there surroundings ands whats happening and allow them selvs to slip into condition white, then what ever advantage they had with oc just went right out the door.
We are all friends here, we all have the right to disagree, but i violently support your right to not agree with me, as i hope you would do the same.
This also applys to our rights with regards to carry methods. I support the right of people to oc and cc, as i hope the cc'ers support my right to oc and cc.(even tho you dont agree, any carry is better then no carry at all)
