OK Teenager Kills Intruder

Here is an OK local news report with a police spokesman talking about how they are looking for further evidence of a "home invasion" that appears to be premeditated.

http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor...ed-to-kill-intruders-20120103,0,5341533.story

Hopefully they will have more evidence to be able to release to answer the anonymous accusations. I didn't see a bit of police action on this news report suggesting anything but a good shoot. No reports that she has been interrogated or questioned in any manner at all. I am quite curious to hear the actual 911 tape by both the lady and the second burglar.
 
Thanks for that link Alaska444

Detectives say there is much more to their investigation and are planning to seize more evidence from 24-year-old Justin Shane Martin's car.

Blanchard Police Detective Dan Huff said, "We believe the vehicle has evidence of the crime and we believe that it will show that the home invasion may have been premeditated."

While the case moves forward and Dustin Louis Stewart is charged with burglary, detectives are obtaining a search warrant for Martin's car. http://www.kfor.com/news/local/kfor...ed-to-kill-intruders-20120103,0,5341533.story
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Four days later and the detectives are bringing her presents for her baby and saying they believe the evidence points to premeditated home invasion.

That sure doesn't jive with the landlord and they were good boys rumor.
 
Sorry if this is a duplicate thread. I did a search on Oklahoma and got a thread about an "Oklahoma Teenager". Didn't think they were the same as this was a woman with a husband (deceased) and an infant child. Not a "teenager" in the usual sense to me.

I read some of the comments at the link in post #5 and some of them sound like friends of the perp like this one from "bad deal":

I Think She was scared for her baby and did what she thought she should do to protect him But, I do think the truth hasnt come out considering her story changed at every interview. God knows the news wont update the story now that they made her the hero. Sure wish they could interview Justin's boss. 20 minutes was a life lost so thank you to the wonderful Blanchard PD. Only god knows his heart so leave the judging to him. RIP Justin I will miss you .
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Another post at the link gives credence to Alaska444's post #19 that the 911 tape will reveal what was said on both sides.

Dont know where THE TRUTH is getting this info, but that is the craziest story ive heard yet. I KNOW THIS FAMILY personally, and whoever is telling you that story is full of ****. This man has been stalking this poor girl for several weeks. THE WHOLE ORDEAL IS RECORDED ON THE 911 TAPE. Not just SOME of it, ALL OF IT.
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Same story, duplicate thread. I commented earlier on how misleading the title of "teen mom" is when she was married, widowed and a mother and on top of that an emancipated adult by law at the age of 18 and by her actions on the other thread earlier. I guess good minds think alike. :D
 
Lastly, people that do the bidding of a land lord are almost universally able to produce a very important item called a house key.
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Doesn't work if someone changes the locks. Every home I ever rented, I changed the locks as soon as I moved in. When I left, I handed the keys over to the landlord. Of course, I've never heard of a landlord paying someone to knock down the door of a rental.

Could be both sides are telling a little of the truth. Could be the landlord inadvertently hired the woman's stalker to check on the house.

I'd love to hear the 911 tape.
 
One of the stories stated that the perp was found slumped over a couch that the occupant had used to barricade the door. So she was moving furniture around which would not be the most silent act she could have performed. The guys had to know that the house was occupied; and if the part about his having "stalked" her is true ...
 
I haven't heard any credible report that she had a dispute with her land lord. Instead, the reports are that the landlord allowed her 3 months rent free after her husband died to help her get back on her feet.

To date, there is no credible news source stating that the two creeps had any legitimate reason for trying to enter her domicile. They are publicly calling it a premeditated home invasion. Remember, she has a one mile long drive way and thus is completely isolated from any neighbors from the sounds of it by the news reports to date. Sounds like they had targeted this lady and started by killing two of her dogs by apparent poisoning.

If all of this is true, then good riddance to the creep.
 
I wonder what will happen to the 2nd perp: possibly no weapon + never entered home.
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It does not matter that the 2nd perp never entered the home. Under OK law he can be charged with murder.
 
Still.... something doesn't feel quite completely right yet.

I'll be interested in what the police eventually release as the second man's official statement.
 
I'll be interested in what the police eventually release as the second man's official statement.
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Why does it matter what the accomplice says? He is desperate to avoid a charge of second degree murder and a long term in McAlester prison.

i don't know where the unconfirmed stuff about eviction is coming from. The lady simply killed a perp who broke into her home: A perp armed with a big knife. The perp did not have the best interest of the lady in mind.
 
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Why does it matter what the accomplice says?
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'No, no!' said the Queen.
'Sentence first - verdict afterwards.'

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial,
by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed,
which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of
the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him;
to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance
of counsel for his defense.

It would really be "nice" to observe the minor details here.
 
Mehavey, the only witness against the second perp is himself, and possibly the young woman if she was aware there were two people trying to break in. The facts remain:

  • The deceased was apparently stalking her
  • Her dogs had been killed
  • Her husband had just died, so the entire community knew she was alone
  • The perps spent twenty minutes trying to find a way into the house
  • The woman was on the phone with 9-1-1 the entire twenty minutes (or most of it)
  • The dispatcher counseled her on when it was legal for her to shoot, and she help off until the deceased actually got it -- even though she must have been terrified
If you choose to believe that the young woman somehow conspired to lure the deceased to the house so she could kill him, you have my permission to continue.
 
There are only two people alive who know what actually happened here.
Let us at least hear from both of them.
It's otherwise Red Queen time.
 
This is a firearms discussion board, NOT a board for discussing who can/should be married to whom, etc.

Off topic posts have been deleted, as will subsequent off-topic posts (but I'm guessing that there won't be any, right? RIGHT?)

Thank kew. :)
 
mehavey, it is one thing to say,
"We should hear both sides before judging."

It is another thing entirely to say something seems suspicious.
 
MEHavey said:
.... something doesn't feel quite completely right yet.
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MEHavey said:
"We should hear both sides before judging."
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MLeake said:
mehavey, it is one thing to say,
"We should hear both sides before judging."

It is another thing entirely to say something seems suspicious.
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There was a leap of logic (not to mention quote) there.
I still want to hear what the other party to this event has to say.
 
I'm not sure what more we could know that would change the basics of the event. The guy had a 12" knife. That doesn't jive AT ALL with being sent by the property owner for any lawful purpose. Even if the woman was there without a lease or the landlords approval, sending armed thugs to beat down the doors and kick her out would be illegal. If they intended to use weapons, it's obviously an illegal deadly threat.

The more that comes out the worse it looks for the dead guy. I see no reason to withhold opinions on the matter. Might they be wrong opinions? Maybe. So what? They're opinions. They hold no legal weight and no influence on anyone who matters. Meaningless speculation on a topic which interests us.

We're not a judge and jury. We are not held to any standard of "innocent until proven guilty". If we were, we could never even discuss these incidents because we will never have all the information necessary, as presented to a jury, to make any kind of judgement under those standards.
 
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