Offhand at 25yds..

Good luck in court if you take a SD shot at 75 feet. The DA's opening line will be, why didn't you run...

What I meant to say was that if I can keep all my shots on paper at 25 yards, I can certainly hit a BG in a self-defense situation at shorter range. I didn't mean that I would shoot at someone from that distance.
 
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What I meant to say was that if I can keep all my shots on paper at 25 yards, I can certainly hit a BG in a self-defense situation at shorter range

I have felt that exact way since I started shooting years ago. Have not worried overmuch about whether i can double tap at three to seven yards.
I really don't understand the efficacy of short range practice....if you can do it at 25 or 50 yards, you can do it at 3. Not necessarily the other way round, though.
Pete
 
25 yds, off hand, Hi-Point C9!!!

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Tested a new load for my Smith Model 10-8 last Friday, 25 yards, but two hand, hope that doesn't sound like "cheating". Didn't take time to try for a better group - my son was shooting and having a blast.

BTW, no such thing as a "called flyer", I missed.:p

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Nice armoredman, I bet when you finalize that load and I'd say it's pretty decent now going by the group of 4 I bet your one hand offhand will be just as good. To much worry by to many of us looking for bench rest accuracy when what we really want is reliable and good enough.
 
Offhand target shooting will give you the basics of front sight, trigger control (press, not squeeze), recovering the target, etc. This allows you to do it by the numbers and at your own pace.

I go to the range once a week and twice a week if I can. I am a long range handgun shooter and I always start 25 yrds. and finish out to 225 yds. No I do not use a scope.
 
Yes!

In my "real life" shooting at 25+ yards is recreation in addition to practice. I just hope and pray I never need to find out about your "real life"!

+1. Not everyone has the mindset that shooting is an activity related solely to combat.
All of my firearms fall into the class of "sporting goods" not war materiel.
Pete

PS
in real life THE FIRST SHOT ONLY COUNTS.
If that were true, you'd only need to carry a single shot derringer.

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Good luck in court if you take a SD shot at 75 feet.

The DA's opening line will be, why didn't you run...
If I took a 75 foot shot in SD you can bet you butt I'll have an answer for the DA. Plus I'll get to answer him since I survived from actually having the ability to accuratly placing a shot beyond 7 feet I get to do that.
 
The black center (i.e., the 7 - 10 rings) of the standard NRA 25-yard slow fire pistol target is about 5.3 inches in diameter, which is equivalent to about 20 MOA. NRA targets for other distances, and also for the timed/rapid fire stages, are scaled so the black is approximately the same MOA, though obviously different in size for the different ranges.

I've been shooting Bullseye competition for about 30 years and currently am just barely holding on to my NRA Expert classification (which is not nearly as big a deal as it may sound - there are lots of Expert shooters in the leagues I shoot with). The point is only that I've seen lots of shooters of varying abilities come and go over the years. Based on that experience, I tend to think of a good shooter as someone who can keep his shots in the black, i.e. turn in 10-shot groups of 5 inches or so, most of the time (slow fire, one-handed). That individual will generally be scoring in the mid-80s or better in the slow fire stage, and in the high 260s or low 270s overall. Very good shooters will consistently turn in slow fire scores in the 90s, the key word being "consistently" - everyone gets lucky from time to time. They are few and far between.
 
In my "real life" shooting at 25+ yards is recreation in addition to practice. I just hope and pray I never need to find out about your "real life"!

+1. Not everyone has the mindset that shooting is an activity related solely to combat.
All of my firearms fall into the class of "sporting goods" not war materiel.
Pete

Not saying that I don't have CCW, and SD weapons. Also modern military style firearms along with numerous milsurps.
The fact is, I like to shoot! While most of my range time is spent on recreation, I do spend part of each session keeping fresh with my CCW guns. Just in case that "real world" of mrt949 that I pray never happens, does!
 
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