Ridge_Runner_5
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Funny, I could say the same about just about every guy at my range with a bolt action in any oddball caliber.
Not an AR fan
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Funny, I could say the same about just about every guy at my range with a bolt action in any oddball caliber.
Micahweeks
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I've shot AR-15s and even had one in my car for a while. They aren't my favorite. I much prefer the FNAR/Browning BAR. I just like a bit more solid feeling gun with a harder punch.
CPTMurdoc30 if you want to see something that will kick your ass - spend 45 days at NTC from June / July, then fly straight to Louisianna.
A whole company of us got off a C5 after a non-stop flight. The humidity hit us like a ton of bricks. We threw our duffle bags on the ground and collapsed - we looked like a bunch of carp when a lake had dried up. We just sat around gasping for air. I felt like I was going to faint.
BTW - I was cleaning my M16 constantly at NTC and keeping it as clean as humanly possible and mine was jamming up on me pretty frequently firing blanks. Although I'm not sure if that was the weapon or the blank adapter or the blanks.
But I also had the M16s fail on me during competition and when qualifying. I just got used to the immediate action drill.
A whole company of us got off a C5 after a non-stop flight. The humidity hit us like a ton of bricks. We threw our duffle bags on the ground and collapsed - we looked like a bunch of carp when a lake had dried up. We just sat around gasping for air. I felt like I was going to faint.
BTW - I was cleaning my M16 constantly at NTC and keeping it as clean as humanly possible and mine was jamming up on me pretty frequently firing blanks. Although I'm not sure if that was the weapon or the blank adapter or the blanks.
But I also had the M16s fail on me during competition and when qualifying. I just got used to the immediate action drill.
Marquezj16
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Acceptance
I think overall the AR is gaining acceptance as a sporting rifle. More and more shooters are owning one for competition, hunting and general shooting. With the various caliber available, ARs are being used for hunting prairie dogs to elk. With the many different manufacturers, there are so many ways you can customize an AR to do what you want it to do. As being made of plastic, most hunting rifles are available in either wood or synthetic stock. A rifle's soul is implanted by the maker and the owner. It is what you make it to be.
As a side note, the picture of the AR with wood furniture is a beauty!
I think overall the AR is gaining acceptance as a sporting rifle. More and more shooters are owning one for competition, hunting and general shooting. With the various caliber available, ARs are being used for hunting prairie dogs to elk. With the many different manufacturers, there are so many ways you can customize an AR to do what you want it to do. As being made of plastic, most hunting rifles are available in either wood or synthetic stock. A rifle's soul is implanted by the maker and the owner. It is what you make it to be.
As a side note, the picture of the AR with wood furniture is a beauty!
TheNatureBoy
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Same page! Not a fan of the AR platform. Maybe one day.
My son just built our first AR from "scratch", in 6.5 Grendel.
Hope to get it to the range later this week.
First impressions:
I'm not overly impressed with the ergonomics.
Waiting to see how "dirty" these things really are, and how difficult to clean.
The Garand-inspired action on my Mini-14 leaves just the forward section of the gas block dirty- and it's an extremely simple rifle to field strip and clean. Not picky on the ammo, and it'll run dry and never FTF.
The AR's gas tube dumps the gas all over the bolt and into the action- time will tell on that one.
I hope that, particularly in the 6.5 caliber, the tack-driver accuracy we expect will outweigh my perceived negatives.
Hope to get it to the range later this week.
First impressions:
I'm not overly impressed with the ergonomics.
Waiting to see how "dirty" these things really are, and how difficult to clean.
The Garand-inspired action on my Mini-14 leaves just the forward section of the gas block dirty- and it's an extremely simple rifle to field strip and clean. Not picky on the ammo, and it'll run dry and never FTF.
The AR's gas tube dumps the gas all over the bolt and into the action- time will tell on that one.
I hope that, particularly in the 6.5 caliber, the tack-driver accuracy we expect will outweigh my perceived negatives.
Just because I'm not a huge fan of the AR, doesn't mean that I thin, the AK is a great rifle. I could list at least as many things, probably more, that I don't like about AK's. For a .223, I like the way the Sig 550's (556 w/ 550 lower) are constructed. Although, admittedly, I haven't shot one of the Sig 556's or 550 conversions. I also like the FN SCAR 17. But, I think I like the Sig better than the FN SCAR .223. I also like the new Para that DSA is making. Those are just more to my liking.
223 shooter
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It is probably one type of rifle I'll never own , but who knows. I gave some thought of picking up a Rock River A4 Varmint. I shoot mainly target and have always used bolt rifles like my 700LTR. Luckily I have a friend that owns an AR so I can shoot his when I'm visiting.
I thought at first you might have been a member of my range! Most of the AR guys there seem to show up just to launch bullets , more or less at the targets they post. Although, there was guy shooting a AR at a range in NC with only a dot sight and his 100 yard target was pretty impressive.
I don't buy this comment at all.
One of the beauties of an AR is the modularity. If you don't like the "cheap" parts (and I assume you are just talking about the standard M-16/M4-style furniture, as the lightweight aluminum upper and lower recievers on a good AR are actually finely machined and well-finished forged parts), it's easy enough to build them with parts of any quality you desire.
It's amazing how much of a difference a nice aluminum rail/forearm and decent pistol grip and stock will make for an AR.
warbirdlover
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Why doesn't somebody sell them with all these options instead of having to buy it (for big bucks) and then rebuild it the way you want it. Makes no sense to me at all. Just my opinion. Maybe half the fun of owning one is adding gadgets to it?
Ridge_Runner_5
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There are several brands where you can build the gun to your spec and have them assemble it and ship it to your FFL.
Or, alternatively, you can buy individual components and build it up as you like, and as funds allow. That's how I built my first AR.
Ridge_Runner_5
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Yeah there is an 11% federal tax on complete weapons, which goes to Washington, then gets sent back down to the states to use to build and maintain sporting areas, apparently.
There's a special place in my heart for AR 15s and 10s. Sure i get more thrill out of shooting my Bolt gun. (Something about hearing that fling of brass after each carefully placed shot gets my blood going) But for putting a decent amount of rounds downrange an AR is just plane fun. As Art said it makes one hell of a truck gun and with a collapsible stock my 18" upper is shorter than my youth model .243 by 3-4" which is great.
I have some downsides though. IMO my BCM MK12 mod 1 requires so much more technique and concentration from me, to shoot accurately than my bolt rifle. Trigger pull, cheek weld, breathing, and steadiness have to be perfect for me to turn out good groups with it. Sure all of that has to be done with my bolt rifle but it's much easier to manage. Alot of the trouble is if you intend to have a med. range accurate AR on a collapsible stock they tend to be pointed at the end and harder to steady. Or that has been my case so far. As mentioned earlier cleaning is sometimes a PITA as they do foul pretty bad.
I have some downsides though. IMO my BCM MK12 mod 1 requires so much more technique and concentration from me, to shoot accurately than my bolt rifle. Trigger pull, cheek weld, breathing, and steadiness have to be perfect for me to turn out good groups with it. Sure all of that has to be done with my bolt rifle but it's much easier to manage. Alot of the trouble is if you intend to have a med. range accurate AR on a collapsible stock they tend to be pointed at the end and harder to steady. Or that has been my case so far. As mentioned earlier cleaning is sometimes a PITA as they do foul pretty bad.
dont feel bad. i own a few, i've sold a few others...
i have fallen out of love with the AR. but i quickly lose interest in the popular, and i could really really go a week with out hearing about the new ar15 wizbang chambering or the newest must have tacticool attachment, and be happier for it
i have fallen out of love with the AR. but i quickly lose interest in the popular, and i could really really go a week with out hearing about the new ar15 wizbang chambering or the newest must have tacticool attachment, and be happier for it