Neo – CONNED ! by Texas Rep. Ron Paul (R)

In post #25 of this thread at 11:02 AM, I asked several specific questions of you. You either chose to answer my questions with questions or intimated that I (like some rhetorical palm reader) already knew the answers.
You hoped to get off easy and not have to do the heavy lifting of explaining yourself and your views. Time to sit under the microscope, 'cause I'm not letting this go. Explain yourself. Answer the questions or show yourself for the person you are.
 
Ron Paul is a Republican, yes I support him and yes I would vote for him all of which you already know. I answered the other questions already.

Why?
 
Complete answers to all questions, please.

For the record, you did not answer the other questions. You proposed other questions in response to my questions. That's not answering; its quibbling. ;)
 
Nothing New

There is nothing new in Ron Paul's message. He has always been long-winded,
and he has always been a Libertarian. He's been well known around this
part of the country for a couple of decades. He managed to get on the
ballot as a Presidential Candidate, I think it was back in either 1980 or 1984.
As a Libertarian.

He only ran for Congress as a Republican because he knew he would never get
elected as a Libertarian in Texas. And for Ron Paul, like most politicians,
IMHO, getting elected takes precedence over conviction of ideas.

Just my opinion,

Walter
 
I agree with you Walter. But, I think what matters most is what you do in Washington or where you are. Not what you say you will do. Ron Paul has done alot for the libertarian cause, unfortunately there's not very many of him once you get to that level of politics because our system has been corrupted so.
 
Thank you, Walter.

That was the piece of the puzzle that was missing.

Paul runs as a Republican to get elected but is really a libertarian. He compromises himself to achieve office.

Psychoward respects and supports Paul despite previously stating that he wouldn't support candidates who compromise their principles, which Paul has clearly done by whoring himself out to the republicans.

Psychoward states that he never compromises in supporting his candidates, yet supports a republican (which is one of the two parties he loathes) who is really a libertarian whose compromised himself to get elected.

It's no wonder that the boy is confused. And I thought that had a hard time choosing between the republicans and democrats.
 
He doesn't compromise his values. There's a deep canyon in between Ron Paul and George W. Bush.

Psychoward states that he never compromises in supporting his candidates, yet supports a republican (which is one of the two parties he loathes) who is really a libertarian whose compromised himself to get elected.
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Oh gee, like nobody knew that Ron Paul used to be a libertarian. What a revelation gburner! Why did you just come out and say it instead of playing your ridiculous games.

I don't loathe republicans, I loathe neo-con republicans. In reality the republican party's stated beliefs are along the lines of true conservatives. What you don't understand is that the neo-conservatives have betrayed that.

I don't compromise in supporting candidates who support personal liberty, of that you are correct.
 
Just to clarify my position: I probably agree with Ron Paul's positions more
than I disagree.
And even though I voted for George Bush twice for governor of Texas, and twice for President, I am beginning to agree with him less on a number of
issues. The number one issue he and I disagree on is immigration.

Border security in this country should be quadrupled. We have the weakest
border security of any nation in the world. If there is another terrorist
attack like 9/11 on the U.S., it is our own fault.

We have had our warning, and our wake-up call.

Walter
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Conspiwassy? Did someone say conspiwassy?

Naaaaaaah, it was all an accidental progression I tell you. They just all woke up - every single day over the last 40-odd years - and just by coincidences, several thousand coincidences, brought us to where we are now, one accidental step at a time.

It was all an accident, an accident I tell you!! A seewees of coincidinzes! :D
 
All you Ron Paul bashers, Just WHO happens to be your darlin? All politicians have something we can complain about.Not many have anything worth saying or doing that we can be proud of.Or at least feel pretty happy about. If more were like Ron Paul, well like I asked,Who is the 'darlin' Ya'll can brag on??
 
Barry Goldwater! A-OK! I remember when he ran for pres. Reagan,I voted for him. One of the better,recent pres.He still cow towed to israel though. Buckley.................................. :eek:
 
Gburner,Don't feel bad about being confused, The truth is sometimes hard to grasp. Heck,with the way the media leads ya on, Those rose colored glasses must look better every day! Enjoy. :)
 
Well I have to say I agree with Buckley on this, The War on some Drugs is lost. It seemed to escape his attention though, years ago, that it was unwinnable to begin with. And that's just one of the laundry list of things about neo-conservatives that scare me.
 
Restore limited constitutional government. Which is why neo-cons foam at the mouth at the mere mention of libertarianism. I find it humorous how you wouldn't even consider that a multi-billion dollar airline should pay for its own security. But then, you're the big government, corporate welfare type, so that's exactly what I expect from you. Big corporations are already the largest recipients of welfare. But let's give them more right!!!! That's why neo-cons typically try to shape the debate. Because they know deep down they're wrong.
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IMO, the libertarians are the only party with a consistent agenda free from hypocrisy. However, this agenda leaves them without the support needed from either large, so called liberal issue-based interest groups or corporate support.

The only support the libertarian movement can count on is that of average ordinary folks. That should (and could) be enough, but it isn't.
 
Your worst enemies are folks who come across as so stident and mean that no one wants to listen to them. It's no coincidence that libertarians are still considered by many to be on the fringe. A little attention to PR would help immensely.

'You catch more flies with honey than vinegar'.
 
I think it was Tamara who used to have in her sig line:

"The problem with libertarianism is that people are all for the "nobody gets to tell you what to do", but lose interest when it gets to the "and you don't get to tell anybody what to do either" part.
 
You spend the vast majority of your posting time telling others what to do as you sit in irrational judgement of the rest of us. You may be many things, but you're NOT a libertarian.


BTW...you have about as much in common with Tamara as a howler monkey has with Socrates. Get a clue.
 
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