My Pardini GT9-1 9x21 IMI caliber
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Thank you very much Hammerhead.
Thank you very much Don P.
I'm from Italy. In my Country 9x19 Parabellum semiautomatic pistols are prohibited for civilians. So 9mm pistols for the italian market are all re-chambered for the 9x21 IMI which is the most popular pistol cartridge in Italy. OAL and performance is virtually the same of the 9x19.
Rock Hammer
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That is a just a beauty of a gun. I'm thinking 9x21 has to be more powerful than 9mm luger yet its banned. Not to hijack the tread but how hard is it to get a license for a gun there? I see you own a few others. Do you have a limit on what you can own? I'm sure your ranges are closed like many of ours. I'd give anything to empty a magazine or two at some steel. Stay safe and thanks for posting
That is a just a beauty of a gun. I'm thinking 9x21 has to be more powerful than 9mm luger yet its banned. Not to hijack the tread but how hard is it to get a license for a gun there? I see you own a few others. Do you have a limit on what you can own? I'm sure your ranges are closed like many of ours. I'd give anything to empty a magazine or two at some steel. Stay safe and thanks for posting
Believe it or not, there is some limited supply of 9x21 ammo in the U.S. Not much, but it's out there.
The case length is longer to make it nominally different from the 9mm Luger, but the cartridge OAL is the same. The bullet is just seated deeper into the case, relatively speaking, to maintain the same overall length. This means that the performance (at the same pressure levels) is pretty much the same as the 9mm Luger because the OAL length constraint keeps the practical case capacities more or less identical.
Totally correct.
Italian gun laws are complicated and perverse.
Yes, a license is needed. I have a "sport license" which is valid for five years; once expired it is necessary to renew it if you want to continue to go to the range for another five years and so on.
In Italy weapons are divided into a series of categories and there are limitations in the number that can be owned according to the type of the weapon. Each weapon model that you want to sell in Italy is classified.
Here are some of the limitations:
"defense" guns: maximum number of 3 (in my case Walther P99 AS, SIG-Sauer P226 and S&W 36);
"sport" guns: maximum number of 12 (in my case Pardini GT9-1, Grand Power Q100, Weihrauch Target Trophy and Norinco Olympia);
"hunting" shotguns: no number limit;
"hunting" rifles: no number limit;
pistol/revolver ammo: max 200 in the house;
shotguns/rifles ammo: max 1500 in the house.
These are the basic rules, more or less.
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I forgot to mention that the hold open lever, the disassembly lever and the locking block-trigger-trigger bar assembly can be removed from the frame without tools. The whole hammer assembly can be separated from the frame once the grips are removed. The grips hold two small retaining pins in place.
Very nice indeed
Here's my GT-9. They are outstanding shooters...
Believe it or not, I've got a Pardini GT-9 INOX on the way shortly. In fact, its the 6" variety. According to Pardini, they made a total of 40 INOX pistols. Not sure how many of those are 6", but likely less than half. The INOX was offered with a 5" or 6" barrel.
A true unicorn for sure. I've never even seen one in person before.
Here's my GT-9. They are outstanding shooters...
Believe it or not, I've got a Pardini GT-9 INOX on the way shortly. In fact, its the 6" variety. According to Pardini, they made a total of 40 INOX pistols. Not sure how many of those are 6", but likely less than half. The INOX was offered with a 5" or 6" barrel.
A true unicorn for sure. I've never even seen one in person before.
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Jim Watson
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They are reported very fine.
What does you shoot at with one in Italy? Is not ISSF Centerfire dominated by .32s?
I have seen two recent posts by shooters in Europe trying to get 1911s to suit them, even though both had Pardinis. I am a staunch 1911 shooter but I do not think I would have settled on the type if out of the USA.
Is the grip angle easy to get used to? I am not comfortable with Glock or Luger after 50 years with Colt and Smith.
What does you shoot at with one in Italy? Is not ISSF Centerfire dominated by .32s?
I have seen two recent posts by shooters in Europe trying to get 1911s to suit them, even though both had Pardinis. I am a staunch 1911 shooter but I do not think I would have settled on the type if out of the USA.
Is the grip angle easy to get used to? I am not comfortable with Glock or Luger after 50 years with Colt and Smith.
wild cat mccane
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What is INOX?
I thought it was just Beretta's silver finish. Is it a register finish or just a way to describe any silver finish?
Thanks!
I thought it was just Beretta's silver finish. Is it a register finish or just a way to describe any silver finish?
Thanks!
Jim Watson
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The 9x21 is a loophole cartridge.
In Italy, 9x21 is a "non-military" equivalent of 9mm P legal for private ownership.
At one time in the USA 9x21 was a way to shoot 9mm Major in IPSC while 9mm P Major was considered a dangerous overload and not allowed. Still an overload but not banned by rule. I recall watching a guy replace the broken slide stop in his overloaded 9x21 CZ. He didn't even bother with a real slide stop lever, just a straight pin to cam the barrel. He wasn't going to shoot the gun dry anyhow.
Substantially obsoleted by 2011 high capacity 38 Supers, then really knocked out by a reduction in Major power factor and allowing of 9mm P Major.
In Italy, 9x21 is a "non-military" equivalent of 9mm P legal for private ownership.
At one time in the USA 9x21 was a way to shoot 9mm Major in IPSC while 9mm P Major was considered a dangerous overload and not allowed. Still an overload but not banned by rule. I recall watching a guy replace the broken slide stop in his overloaded 9x21 CZ. He didn't even bother with a real slide stop lever, just a straight pin to cam the barrel. He wasn't going to shoot the gun dry anyhow.
Substantially obsoleted by 2011 high capacity 38 Supers, then really knocked out by a reduction in Major power factor and allowing of 9mm P Major.
Hello bac1023, I think you and lifesizepotato influenced me in buying this pistol because of your opinion about it.Very nice indeed
Here's my GT-9. They are outstanding shooters...
Believe it or not, I've got a Pardini GT-9 INOX on the way shortly. In fact, its the 6" variety. According to Pardini, they made a total of 40 INOX pistols. Not sure how many of those are 6", but likely less than half. The INOX was offered with a 5" or 6" barrel.
A true unicorn for sure. I've never even seen one in person before.
I once saw a 6 or so pages review of the all stainless steel (inox) Pardini GT9-1 on an italian gun magazine called Armi Magazine. It was a €3600 gun, twice the price of a new Pardini GT9-1 like mine. It had a golden trigger and some other different looking features. Superb pistol only available with a special customer order. I don't think they offer it anymore.
Back to my Pardini, this gun has never let me down. It's an outstanding shooter, a well made italian design piece, totally reliable, soft shooter, nice conversational pistol.
To answer Jim Watson questions: when shooting one hand the grip angle is totally natural while shooting two handed I have to rotate my wrists a little. Not much difference to me from a Glock 17: more or less the same sensation in my case.
I don't compete with this gun and I don't know if it can be used for competition: maybe bullseye or pin bowling or steel challenge, I really don't know. In my case it's a recreational range only piece.
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