Not all triggers are created equally. Two triggers on two guns of the same model can be substantially different. In fact, if all triggers were truly equal there would be no need to argue for having to learn to shoot a DAO well.
No, they are not all equal, but the difference between 99% of the factory triggers, isnt worth a second thought, and not an issue when you shoot the guns. Unless of course, you choose to make it one. They are simply, triggers.
You should learn to shoot DAO, if you arent already familiar with shooting that way, because its something youre not familiar with, not because its a chore. You simply learn a different trigger type. The big plus with learning the DAO trigger is, you learn that the trigger itself really isnt the big deal, something that those who dont understand, want to keep pushing. Its just a trigger, and nothing to worry over.
But, no matter how well you train yourself to shoot DA well, you will shoot the same gun equipped as SA better.
Not necessarily, and in some, if not most cases, not at all. I know this for a fact. Then again, I do shoot that way on a regular basis, and Im speaking from experience.
How so, if all you own is handguns with nice SA triggers?
Why? Again, you simply limit yourself and your skills, to one type of gun/trigger, and have limited yourself in options. What happens if you need to pick up something youre not familiar with, that doenst have your "crutch" trigger?
Jogging with ankle weights will make me a better runner, but come race time I'll remove the ankle weights. Regardless of any benefits one might accrue, one will still be more precise with a SA trigger, all else being the same.
Doesnt work like that. SA isnt necessarily more precise. DA/DAO isnt less precise. Its what you the shooter do, or cant do.
If your position is true, think of how many gunsmiths are ripping off uninformed gun owners for the price of a worthless trigger job!
They are! And those like you, here on the internet and in the gun shops, must be their best salesmen. Youre not doing anyone any favors by it either.
I said nothing about a combat trigger.
"A well tuned SAO trigger is the best trigger for putting lead on target in combat..." That was you in post #18, was it not? Sounded to me like thats what you were inferring.
Seems to me the 1911 should be safer, and although there are more 1911s in the hands of Americans the most common gun we read ND reports about is the Glock.
Ive seen more problems with 1911's in this respect than I have Glocks, but Ive been around more 1911's over the years than I have Glocks. Between the two, I really dont see a difference safety wise, and Ive carried both pretty much any way you can think of, and never had any issues. If the operator is a dunce, youre going to have problems. Doesnt matter what the gun is.
Please define "WAY too light and sensitive."
I assume "doubles" = troubles? If so, please describe the nature of such troubles.
"Doubles" is "doubles", the gun fires twice, with the second round being unintentional. How long have you been at this?
"Way to light" triggers often give this result, especially if youre not accustomed to them.
A crippling DA pull has lead to unfortunate lapses in safety in a misguided attempt to mitigate the poor (albeit more safe) nature of the trigger.
As far as I know, the reason most departments went to DAO, and removed the SA notch of their revolvers, was to reduce their liability due to unintentional discharges under stress, of a gun in SA.
Most DA handguns dont have a "crippling" DA pull either (unless maybe youre that boy we used to see the bully pick on in the back of comics, when we were kids). Its just a trigger, that isnt the light SA that youre accustomed to. Nothing wrong with weight, as long as it reasonable and smooth, which most factory triggers are, even these days.
Like I said, I need an explanation for how this is so. My carry pistols are all safety-equipped DA/SA CZs, which I carry cocked and locked. I only fire them SA, as I do not believe in warning or fouling shots.
The more you keep talking, the more Im becoming convinced, you have little, if any real DA experience, or we wouldnt be hearing this from you.
Shooting DA, or DAO, is no harder than shooting SA, "if" youre accustomed to it. You'd understand that, if you bothered to give it a try and actually learn it.
Shooting DA/DAO puts your focus on the sights and/or target, where it should be, with little thought of the trigger. I dont think (consciously anyway) about the trigger at all when I shoot (unless there is something wrong with it). There is no need to, its just the trigger. If Im worried about what its doing, my focus is not in the right place.
I have a laser target that I shoot mostly DA due primarily to sloth, but also as a challenge because in DA errors are magnified. However, my SA groups are usually half the diameter of my DA groups. Thus, my SA dry firing is typically 4-times more precise than my DA dry firing. I'm sure others would find similar results, either on a laser target or at the range, although I'm sure the SA improvement factor varies (but is always greater than 1).
Try that with a heavy recoiling handgun shooting full power loads, and get back to me. Lasers and dry firing are great help, but no substitute for actual live fire, especially when it comes to dealing with things you dont get with the training aides.
As I said before, my groups shooting the heavy recoiling guns, shrank dramatically when shooting DAO, and it appears Im not the only one here to experience that. I also found my DAO revolver and auto shooting helped with everything else, especially the more I shot that way, and I also found I was way less trigger phobic and a trigger worrier, with pretty much everything else I shot/shoot.
