Most UNDERRATED handgun?

Ruger: Cheap reliable durable.. BIG.. UGLY. If it weren't for the last two I'd own a P series Ruger.

FEG: The Hi-power clones ROCK and the Pa-63 is a gritty little gem (mine has NEVER jammed.. though someday like all autos I suspect it might)

CZ (everyone knows this now but they are still great value for the money)

Good old SW model 10's. Never seen a model 10 "jam".
 
I think the S&W 457 could be a candidate. I've always had good luck with S&W autos and the plain-jane 457 has been perfect for me. It was over $100 less than it's more polished 45xx (I forget the model) sibling.
 
^The 457 I owned was a jam-o-matic with a terrible out of the box trigger. Of course, its possible mine was a lemon.
 
Another vote for the Ruger P95. Mine is the only gun I own that will feed the really cheap stuff (Wolf) on a consistant basis!!! I figure that if it does that, then it will feed anything. :) It's only drawback is it's size. Before I got my AZ CCW and open carried, it didn't matter. Now... ;)
 
The 1911 of course!! Heh, Heh, Heh, Heh!

Actually I vote for the Makarov.

Many people have told me they are junk. I just smile and offer to take "some" of them to the range. Most of the "experts" who proclaimed the Mak to be junk have bought their very own . I will have to admit, I was skeptical at first. I had heard a lot of good about the Mak. So I decided to get one and find out for myself.

I feel the Makarov is very high on the best bargain handgun these days. ;)
 
The Ruger Autos

I just got back from putting 300 rounds through my P89, all on the timer to get ready for this weekends IDPA action. Of course it goes without saying that I had no problems. I think I cleaned it some time last month; that was around 1100 rounds ago. I may get a chance to put another couple hundred through it tomorrow before I shoot two matches with it this weekend.

When IPSC and IDPA start charging me a penalty for shooting an ugly gun, I will quit using it. Until then I will have to be satified with just reliablility and accuracy.
 
You will not believe this! A 9mm Llama Especial. People that don't know laugh when they hear Llama but guess what? Ian Hogg says this is among the best combat handguns made. Ian Hogg knows more about handguns than just about anyone on the face of the Earth. Regards, Richard
 
My vote goes for the old fashion S&W airweight bodyguard. Yes the old humpback camel is butt ugly and only carries five rounds, however it does not care what you feed it it will fire. At home in the pocket or in a holster on the waistband you have five anytime shots and if you need to place a precise single action shot, no problem. Compared to other models listed on the forum I have no problem, however, keep a small j-frame if you ever need to arm a member of the non-shooting public that you would not trust with your semi-auto. I carry a P7, and cannot see myself explaining it to anyone in a short amount of time.:confused:
 
If Spain makes the Llama as good as its legendary swords, I'll buy one in a heartbeat. Does anyone have experience with these pistols?
 
Ironically Spain's best two pistolmakers, Star and Astra, went tango uniform, while the decidedly lower-quality Llama lingered on. Go figure.

The Star M-43 Firestar and the Astra A-75 and A-100 were all quality pieces, fully worthy of inclusion on this list.
 
Rickmeister,


I bought a Llama MiniMax a year or so ago for $259 NIB. I've put a bit shy of 500 rounds through it due to an odd ejection angle (spent shells sometimes target my forehead), but all of those rounds fed and fired with 100 percent reliability without any break-in time needed. What I found even more surprising is the level of accuracy I'm seeing with mine, which is far better than one would expect from such a cheap 1911. The accuracy would be better still if I weren't so concerned of wayward shell casings.

Once I replace the ejector (to which I'm convinced is the culprit), I'll expect flawless performance from mine. However, I'm well aware there are plenty of lemons mixed amongst the healthy ones.
 
Well it use to be the Makarov and the CZ-75, but now as they have caught on big time, I really don't know. Maybe the P-83 Vanad?
 
Actually MOST gun shops have not heard of Makarovs and if they have... they seldom sell them or don't consider them of much value. I hear it all the time "just a cheap inported surplus gun" and "you get what you pay for" and "we don't carry them but we can order them -- most people want a much better gun", etc. and all sorts of uninformed comments. As far as the CZs almost never see them in gun shops and seldom do they know much about them.

TFLers are IN The Know and know far more about Makarovs and CZs than the general gun shop public who KNOW about guns from the silly gun rags alone in most cases.
 
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