So, do you believe him or not? You either trust crime statistics from LE or you don't. Let's make up our mind.
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But for a cop to state that he'd do absolutely nothing while off-duty because of "departmental/agency regulations" is just crap.
Good. Now find someplace where a cop has said that and we cann all get on to him. But I don't think that has been said here.
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There is a CRIME IN PROGRESS and a citizen is in IMMINENT DANGER.
Yes, which is why you should probably try to avoid making the situation even more dangerous.
Well, I believe what he sees same as I believe what I saw when I was behind a badge. Unfortunately, I wasn't assisgned in just one area of the country and kept getting moved around. Saw lots of different things in lots of different cities which might've had something to do with how my experience helped form an informed opinion . . .
And, we had a poster here who said he was LE and that his agency strictly forbid them getting involved in such situation while off-duty. He even went so far as to say he'd help a fellow cop, but not a fellow citizen.
Now, explain to me how that helps the respect factor--especially when that was presented as "typical?"
Respect for LE enforcement was declining back when I was in it. We got regular updates from DoJ (since we were a DoJ agency) on both geographic specific research/polling/opinion-polling as well as demographically specific.
Two key incidents that went national started the tide--Ruby Ridge and Waco.
Used to be a time when local police departments rarely had to advertise for police officers. Now even semi-large departments are not only having to advertise, but recruit nationally and offer incentives and bonuses.
Worse yet, many departments are having to lower their standards drastically in order to field a halfway full/decent academy class. The Dallas PD's idiot chief recently announced that he is proposing to re-write the disqualifying section on illegal drug-use as it pertains to DPD candidates. Instead of two admitted instances, uses or illegal varieties of drugs used, he is pushing to raise it to FIVE.
That just gives me and so many others a warm fuzzy all over.
And finally, there is a reason firemen are generally better regarded than cops these days. If you're in a burning house, a fireman is gonna do what he has to do and all that he can do to get you out of harm's way.
Why the hell wont' a cop?
Can't have it both ways. So many of today's new gen cops tell us about all this supposed damn "incident" and situational" and "tactical" training they've had that makes them SO much more qualified to carry a firearm than your average dumbass civilian. . .
And yet, when that specific "training" is needed, you and others are saying, "well, now, let's THINK about this for a minute."
Sorry. You stated at one time that you were ex-military and ex-law enforcement. So am I. But I was trained in both that if you see bad guy pointing gun at good guy, you shoot bad guy. You didn't stand around and throw out statistics at the victim-in-progress that his chances are looking fairly good, based on statistics, that he won't get shot . . . this time.
Who knows? Maybe that's the policy that's coming. . .
Jeff