Maverick 88 or NEF Pardner Protector?
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SigP6Carry
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Well, you say "another" HD Shotgun, so I assume you already have one. What is your shotgun that you currently own? That could sway which one people recommend greatly.
SigP6Carry
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Well, political and economic basis aside... I suggest the NEF since you already have an 870. There are some parts that are interchangeable, so it would make it convenient when you'll shopping for accessories.
Pardner Protector imported by Remington is an 870 Clone with all parts interchangable except barrels need a spacer - Max100 is the expert on this gun. My gun shop recommend that I get one as I had a $200.00 credit - they said they have sold hundreds and have never had one returned for any reason. Great gun - great price. Remmington is doing us a favor by importing the Pardner Protector.
oneounceload
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Basically - Mexican vs Chinese - what's your preference?
I'm sure either will work for the most part, under most situations with some degree of reliability.........at least you would hope so.
I'm sure either will work for the most part, under most situations with some degree of reliability.........at least you would hope so.
SigP6Carry
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Honestly? I picked up a Mossberg 500 for less than $150 used. Look out for the used market. It's much more accommodating to the patient buyer than you think.
If you want new: I suggest the Maverick 88 just because I prefer the 500, myself. But if you like the 870 more? The NEF is a better choice.
If you want new: I suggest the Maverick 88 just because I prefer the 500, myself. But if you like the 870 more? The NEF is a better choice.
I can't believe you would even consider a Mav 88 over a NEF H&R Protector. The Protector is a much more durable & versatile shotgun.
I don't like the fact that the Moss 500 & 88 shotguns have a closed sealed mag tube and a steel receiver on a tactical shotgun is always a better choice in my opinion.
GC
I don't like the fact that the Moss 500 & 88 shotguns have a closed sealed mag tube and a steel receiver on a tactical shotgun is always a better choice in my opinion.
GC
SigP6Carry
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I can. I believe that the Mossberg designed shotguns are infinitely better than weapons based on the Remington because.... wait, why do I think that? What?
Oh, wait, they're essentially the same. The only thing that's truly different between the NEF and the Mav, to me at least, is the action bar release. Beyond that: (to me) they're the same gun.
Oh, wait, they're essentially the same. The only thing that's truly different between the NEF and the Mav, to me at least, is the action bar release. Beyond that: (to me) they're the same gun.
I like the Mossberg Persuader or 590, Or the NEF Pardner Protector. The nod going to the Protector.
The Pardner is a well built gun and the Chinese seem to have a fetish for building good weapons.
I had one in 12 Gauge in the form of the Pardner Pump field gun and it was a robustly constructed gun.
I traded it off as it was a bit heavy for me.
I have the Pardner Compact in 20 ga. with 21" barrel, in walnut and blue and just love the gun.
Any of those guns mentioned will do you right if you do your part.
As to tactical use....
All of the sage shotgunners here have said it way better than I could.
The Pardner is a well built gun and the Chinese seem to have a fetish for building good weapons.
I had one in 12 Gauge in the form of the Pardner Pump field gun and it was a robustly constructed gun.
I traded it off as it was a bit heavy for me.
I have the Pardner Compact in 20 ga. with 21" barrel, in walnut and blue and just love the gun.
Any of those guns mentioned will do you right if you do your part.
As to tactical use....
All of the sage shotgunners here have said it way better than I could.
Chinese have a fetish for making good weapons?
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Wow!
US made Maverick over china**** any day of the week. If you're gonna buy junk, at least hold out for Turkish, Yugo, or Brazilian.
If you want some fine chinese weaponry just let me know. I'll send you some of the heap of dung scopes I've bought.
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Wow!
US made Maverick over china**** any day of the week. If you're gonna buy junk, at least hold out for Turkish, Yugo, or Brazilian.
If you want some fine chinese weaponry just let me know. I'll send you some of the heap of dung scopes I've bought.
The man was asking a decent question and I was giving him a decent answer. I have been messing with these guns for a while and also had a bunch of Chinese SKS rifles and not one has EVER malfunctioned.
But we are talking shotguns here, aren't we? NOT SCOPES!
I dare you to post and ask anyone who owns the Pardner Pump and who've used it for a while, whether they consider it junk. I DARE YOU TO ASK.
The fact is that the Chinese build weapons like they are serious about it.
The fact that you use language that is not supposed to be used on this forum to belittle someone posting on a subject shows you to be an uninformed, disrepectful individual.
Before you make nasty remarks to folks here you should arm yourself with facts and try to show folks here that you have some respect to others who are making a friendly comment to the original posters question.
The Maverick is a nice PRICEPOINT shotgun and it would serve anyone well.
The Pardner pump is an all steel, forged steel receiver, machined aluminum trigger housing, using real walnut, well made shotgun and beats the pants of anything from Turkey to Timbuktu in it's price range as far as third world offerings go.
I would not feel undergunned by either of the two but my PREFERENCE is the Pardner Pump. I have owned many Mossberg products.
I remember when people considered Mossbergs junk compared to the venerable Remington 870.
I would ask you to clean up you language as this is a family forum.
I'm surprised that the moderator hasn't called you on your nasty post.
But we are talking shotguns here, aren't we? NOT SCOPES!
I dare you to post and ask anyone who owns the Pardner Pump and who've used it for a while, whether they consider it junk. I DARE YOU TO ASK.
The fact is that the Chinese build weapons like they are serious about it.
The fact that you use language that is not supposed to be used on this forum to belittle someone posting on a subject shows you to be an uninformed, disrepectful individual.
Before you make nasty remarks to folks here you should arm yourself with facts and try to show folks here that you have some respect to others who are making a friendly comment to the original posters question.
The Maverick is a nice PRICEPOINT shotgun and it would serve anyone well.
The Pardner pump is an all steel, forged steel receiver, machined aluminum trigger housing, using real walnut, well made shotgun and beats the pants of anything from Turkey to Timbuktu in it's price range as far as third world offerings go.
I would not feel undergunned by either of the two but my PREFERENCE is the Pardner Pump. I have owned many Mossberg products.
I remember when people considered Mossbergs junk compared to the venerable Remington 870.
I would ask you to clean up you language as this is a family forum.
I'm surprised that the moderator hasn't called you on your nasty post.
KMAR40 what a rude response - I hope that is not your I.Q. Ignorance is no excuse for rude behavior. The Pardner Protector imported by Remington is a fine gun with a well deserved reputation for reliability and easliy the best value for your $$$. Universal reports by actual owners are the same - absolute relibility and good/great quality. Sorry - the facts are tough things. How about an apology - something along the lines of "Sorry I'm ignorant of the actual facts and I am sorry for being rude."
How about you first?
Now who is "ignorant of the actual facts"?
It is not imported by Remington! It is, in actual fact, imported by NEF...
Just because the same "holdings firm" acquired NEF under their Remington brand doesn't mean Remington has any hand in NEF (lord help NEF if they do) dealings!
And one more point of note... The NEF Pardner Pump was the same cheap 3rd world import long before the NEF name got bought by the holdings firm that also owns Remington.
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The few Pardner Chinese guns had the same rough ugly metal finish as the Rem Express... At least the Mav 88 has a smooth deep BLUED finish.
The Chinese do not have a reputation for making "fine arms"... NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL!!! They have a reputation of blowing out millions at a low cost with a low percentage of failures. The low percentage is based on the millions of guns compared to the lower but better production of the AMERICAN MADE guns... At least Mossberg makes their IMPORTED line obvious with the "Mossberg International" moniker... But all of their pumps are AMERICAN MADE.
Brent
Mossberg receivers and stocks are produced in North Haven, CT. Barrels, triggers and bolt assemblies are produced in Torreon, Mexico from raw steel sent from the U.S. Then the formed parts are shipped from both locations to Eagle Pass, TX. and assembled into complete firearms. This is NOT just the process for Maverick firearms. It is the process for ALL Mossberg products. "American made"? Yes. With significant foreign parts? Also yes. Personally, I don't have a problem with it.
wvshootist
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I will not make any negative comments about the Maverick pump shotgun because I have exactly zero experience with it.
Now on the other hand I do have a Pardner Protector and it has been nothing short of dependable. Its only negative would be that it is a little on the heavy side but then that would be good for clobbering bad guys.
Mine loads and ejects like it is supposed to and fires when I pull the trigger. I would guess that the Maverick does about as well and when I was looking for an HD shotgun I considered the Maverick also.
I really doubt if you would lose out which ever scatter gun you choose.
Now on the other hand I do have a Pardner Protector and it has been nothing short of dependable. Its only negative would be that it is a little on the heavy side but then that would be good for clobbering bad guys.
Mine loads and ejects like it is supposed to and fires when I pull the trigger. I would guess that the Maverick does about as well and when I was looking for an HD shotgun I considered the Maverick also.
I really doubt if you would lose out which ever scatter gun you choose.
Hogdogs - are you really that uninformed? Both the H&R site and the Marlin site specifically state that there is no H&R - it is wholly owned by Marlin which is wholly owned by Remington which is owned by Cerberus Capital Management. Remington calls the shots and Marlin/Remington/Cerberus import the Pardner Protector not H&R as it no longer exists - it is a brand name like Chevrolet or Lincoln.
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