Manurhin MR73

A very expensive toy....great finish, probably very smooth in operation, but...not any better in the hands of any shooter than an average S&W. Basically, a status symbol.

IMHO, guns are tools, this one, at that price, reminds me of a gold plated hammer...gold plated, but still a hammer. More power to you if you enjoy that level of craftsmanship, but it's not any better, in use, than a Smith. BTW, great Smith 27, BAC. And in a very useful bbl. length, but send it along with the Baughmann front sight...as I tend to shoot high with the bead type>>>>

Lastly...as to French opinions on weapons....hmmmmm....I'll pass.

YMMv...Rod
 
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2 things I didn't like about the MR73

Don't get me wrong, I plan to get one as soon as it is restocked here in the US.

* They should relocate the firing pin onto the body instead of riveted on the hammer. To me, it is an eyesore with the hammer cocked and the firing pin showing. It is just not as neat as the hidden firing pin on all modern revolvers.

* They might have addressed this issue on the newer models. Their claim to the durability of shooting upwards of a million rounds of high-power 357 rounds through the barrel is a bit of a stretch. I observed a friend's MR73 (the combat model) about 20 years ago and noted that the forcing cone has a flat cutout just like the vintage S&W K frame and a lot of instances where people using 125g 357 loads have cracked the forcing cone. This flat cutout was necessary to create room for the barrel hinge on the K-frame. Likewise the MR73 has the same flat forcing cone on the 6'O clock position. The current MR73 might have addressed this, but I don't have one to eyeball the difference. I'm only bringing it up as a potential issue, especially in the MR73 where they vouch for its durability, but commonsense tells me the forcing cone was a weak link.
 
I totally doubt this claim.

However, if proofed with Norma, Norma doesn't make a 125gr 357mag round, let alone a "full powerhouse" 357mag round.
 
I really like the negative opinions about the MR73 by people who have never seen one, never shot one and can't afford one.
 
I am sure they are nice. I'm positive no "target" gun barrel is surviving 1 million rounds as advertising "full powerhouse" 357mag. That is just fantasy.

I am positive there wasn't a single MR73 used or even present during the 2015 Paris attack which included the team that "uses" the MR73 and two other French swat groups. This tells me everything we read about this in gun magazines (which interestingly published the French MR73 swat team connection around the same date).


Interestingly, I saw a GP100 7 shot 6" (6" always being the cheapest of the 66, 686, and GP100) listed for 1,200 dollars at Vizards. This may make the GP100 the highest priced increase of any pistol in the last year. So the MR73 might be worth it if that stays true.
 
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I really like the negative opinions about the MR73 by people who have never seen one, never shot one and can't afford one.
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Fact is, that there is a very small fraction of gun owners that really know how to shoot a handgun accurately and it appears that some academical underachievers here on this forum believe that a high post count entitles them to a negative opinion on something that these loosers cannot afford.
 
Hey friends,

There has been very strong opinion in here that people can't know or don't understand the MR73 because they aren't in the know or rich.

Maybe you all could go help the gent in the newest MR73 thread asking for a picture of the MR73 forcing cone looking like a k frame S&W or not on a new MR73.

Would really help the knowledge base of us poor and less in the know folk?
 
rodfac said:
A very expensive toy....great finish, probably very smooth in operation, but...not any better in the hands of any shooter than an average S&W. Basically, a status symbol.



IMHO, guns are tools, this one, at that price, reminds me of a gold plated hammer...gold plated, but still a hammer. More power to you if you enjoy that level of craftsmanship, but it's not any better, in use, than a Smith. BTW, great Smith 27, BAC. And in a very useful bbl. length, but send it along with the Baughmann front sight...as I tend to shoot high with the bead type>>>>



Lastly...as to French opinions on weapons....hmmmmm....I'll pass.



YMMv...Rod
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Totally agree with you!

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Classic12, if you google "MR73 million rounds" you will get this claim. Examples from experts repeating it:

Truthaboutguns, Tactical-life, thewheelgun, guns.com

Makes you wonder a bit. Those are expert gun sources. But not a single one stopped to say, wait, a target barrel that lasts 1,000,000 "powerhouse" 357 magnum...I've literally never heard of this being possible AND in a magnum round???? hmm...

Even those attacking people in here for not being good enough to know about the MR73 haven't laid evidence to this claim...because it is physically impossible.

Quick idea on loading, 1,000,000 rounds is 166,666 openings for a 6 shot revolver. Hum...

Much like every other mythical claim about the MR73. Nope. Sorry. No special secret anti terror group uses the MR73, let alone one with a scope like the pictures we seen in the magazines. If it did, why wasn't one used in Paris 2015 when that group was the primary team?

Just totally circular references that aren't founded in reality to begin with.
 
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Even those attacking people in here for not being good enough to know about the MR73
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No one is saying that. You're just making stuff up. Purporting to be an expert on MR73 and you have no first hand real life experience with one. An MR73 is probably doable for just about anyone who has a job and a little credit.
 
The price of both decent quality revolvers and pistols have gone up a sizable amount over the last two years.

The fall auctions for Rock Island Auction, Morphy's. Amoskeag, Montrose and other auction houses are held later this month and in December. The price of firearms are way up there and make three to four thousand dollars look very reasonable for a Manurhin MR73.

Then there are folks who can afford the high end shotguns.
 
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Making stuff up?

I have proved every mythical comment about the MR73 is wrong:
-No MR73 was used in the Paris attack in 2015. The US magazines repeating each other said the main force that responded in Paris uses them. No MR73 was used or present. All police responded with rifles. Sig P226 and Glock were the only handguns police had present at the Paris attack. Rifles were only fired in the Paris 2015 attack. We know this as a fact. The picture of the scoped revolver being used for a long distant shot in US magazines? NO police force in the world is doing that when rifles exist. That is just a stupid photo. Come on.

-No target barrel, even cold hammer forged (the VP9 barrel is cold hammer forged too), barrel is going to survive 357mag for 1,000,000 rounds. In fact, the actual statement is there is a MR73 displayed with 100,00 rounds. That's the actual story.
Someone isn't good with numbers mistook that for 1 million. This is repeated on every professional gun website. 1 million rounds of 357mag? That barrel would be shoot to heck and back. Every professional gun website should know this. Not one has caught they mistook the claim by more than 900,000. They should have.

-We know Manurhin is proofs with Norma 357. I'm putting up an image of my Norma 357 in the other thread. It is CIP. It is not magical 1,500FPS. So we know pressure isn't somehow explosively different. Fact is, the magical police force using the MR73 is also issues the 686. Again, they probably aren't using either in real situations. Just like our swat teams use short rifles.

I'm not saying it isn't nice. But no one has discredited what I've said. It's impossible that those three items exist. We know that is impossible without knowing anything about the MR73.
 
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And on decorum.

It's a little exhausting going back on forth. Put up your facts and let's get the facts.

Let's see the 1,000,000 MR73 on display. Oops to US gun magazines, it's a 100,000 round gun that is displayed. Didn't mean to discredit the entire gun magazine/website industry...but that is the fact.

Let's see photos of the French force using the MR73 and not in a 1990s airplane. The most recent major terror attack had zero MR73s in 2015. So why are US magazines showing it off in 2017 as the main handgun, cause it isn't.

I'm fine with it being nice and $3,000. But don't come in with nonsense and throw names or talk about peoples lack of wealth being the reason the price tag is not worth the squeeze (look at my sig fella...use critical reasoning on my economic ability to buy a MR73 on reserve). It makes me look rude for following up on nonsense claims. It doesn't build the knowledge source. It doesn't build community.
 
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I can well imagine somebody getting all enthused, reading 100000 and saying 1000000.
I know of revolvers shot well over 100000 locally, but with Specials, and mostly wadcutters at that.

There IS one gun that was fired a documented 1000000 rounds without barrel replacement or mechanical repair. It is a Boss shotgun that belonged to the London proof house and was used to test the ammunition that was to be used to test the many guns that went through.
Winchester "only" got 250000 rounds through a Model 97 but that is pretty good for a repeater.

But those are shotguns operating about 1/3 of Magnum revolver pressures.
Bill Wilson sectioned a used .38 Super barrel and it showed a lot of erosion after 30000.
 
I have a Browning shotgun with ~350,000 rounds through it. It needed some new springs at 90K and is due for some more now.
Kim Rhode put over 1,000,000 through her first Perazzi before it was stolen; but then she shoots more in one month than most will do in their entire lifetime.
 
Let's agree though, shotgun pressure and (lack of) rifling has nothing to do with Guns.com and every expert gun website repeating a Manurhin revolver shot 1,000,000 "powerhouse" 357mag.

Not even HK is claiming the bizllion round HK USP was all +P rounds.

We aren't even in the universe of reality for this 1,000,000 "powerhouse" 357mag round count.
 
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