Deaf Smith
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Cannot disagree.A manual safety should NEVER be a substitute for proper trigger finger discipline.
A manual safety should NEVER be a substitute for proper trigger finger discipline.
A manual safety should NEVER be a substitute for proper trigger finger discipline....But you are saying that it should be.
Brakes, seatbelts, airbags.........
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It really boils down to prudent risk management, and it's not always that simple.Training and familiarity with the pistol, regardless of its features, is the only way to be safe. While I understand and agree with those who feel that a SAO pistol needs a thumb safety to be safely carried, it is only safe if the person handling the pistol is familiar and thoughtfully aware of the pistol's status and follows all of the familiar rules. IOW, even in that situation, it isn't the thumb safety that makes it safe, it is the reliable and conscious use of the safety by the gunman, and overall attention to safe procedures.
Please re-read what I actually wrote.
Striker-fired pistols like a Glock, I do think are dangerous, and if I owned one it would never be loaded except at a range, but that's me.
But I do not consider that little thingy in the trigger to be an adequate "safety".
I'm not Jeff, but I'll offer this.Do you think Glocks are dangerous because of an emotional feeling, or do you have stats that back up your thoughts? If it is an emotional reaction, no problem. I can accept that point of view.
If you have stats, I would be interested in seeing them because I have carried a Glock for years with a round in the chamber. I may be one of those outliers in the distribution and not know it.
I've seen that written, but I am skeptical. Glocks are drop safe, but would not attribute that to the little trigger lock disconnect.That's a drop safety, to prevent the trigger from pulling itself when dropped on its back/grip.
I've seen that written, but I am skeptical. Glocks are drop safe, but would not attribute that to the little trigger lock disconnect.
The discharge of dropped firearms generally results from inertial movement of the firing pin, and not the pulling of the trigger. The Glock system keeps the firing pin from moving unless the trigger is pulled.
I haven't done the calculations, but I seriously doubt that the mass of the trigger and the velocity of a drop from a height of a meter and a half would pull the trigger all the way. Have you?
True.Sure, if you look around, you'll find problems with ANY OF THEM, and in most cases, it wasnt the weapons fault.
Yep. Human error will be the cause, every time.Short of a defect or malfunction, we, the user, will always be the weakest, and most probable link.
Sorry, but in the scheme of things that is not a very rigorous test at all. One would have to test several guns for a much longer period, under varying conditions.I kept hearing, over and over, all the same old crap about the Glocks, that I took to carrying a second, unloaded 17 around the house and yard as a "test", for about a year and a half (still actually doing it even today, as its my dry fire/ practice gun), doing pretty much everything and anything we are constantly told not to do, and Ive done it constantly, and have yet to have the trigger drop unintentionally.
Unless you consider the severity of the potential consequences to be insignificant, "the least bit reasonable" won't cut it. You have to be perfect, all the time.If youre the least bit reasonable in your gun handling, its a non issue.
Do you have a basis for asserting that the several officers who have been injured were "retards"?If youre a retard, well, you'll probably get to be the next poster child for the "dont do it because...." crowd.
Of course it can matter. Think about it.If your are one of the latter, its not going to matter what the gun is either, I can pretty much guarantee that.
Sure, but my question was whether it can.If the trigger can pull itself when dropped on its back, that means it can deactivate the firing pin block and release the striker.
Sure, but my question was whether it can.